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Thursday, December 22nd 2011, 11:15pm

Oh where oh where has my dps gone?

Oh where oh where can it be? Instead of my baby being lost this new patch may of misplaced something more precious to me...my dps.

I'm new to the R/s class combo and I've read a few articles about it in the forums. I've learned that one of the key reasons that R/s is such a good class combo is because we are able to sustain single-target dps by using our scout skills that we obtain from our secondary classes to fill in the gaps of where our short supply of energy zaps out.

From the patch our beloved skill called Shot received a 3 second cool-down. I haven't been able to run a high instance yet with my R/s but I can see that our once coveted dps has been flushed down the drain.

I'm not at all an experienced R/s yet but others including the Scout class who truly are the masters of this skill but I've decided to make this thread to try and inform from my perspective of things is that this nerf has caused much more damage than good. I would like to try and make a solution to this but I simply lack the experience of playing this class at the higher levels.

Also not only this class combo has been effected. The classes that have Scout as secondary and the Scouts themselves have lost out on one of their best skills

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Friday, December 23rd 2011, 9:11am

Well, I don't disagree that scout dps has taken a hit, it has. However, the change to Shot isn't a nerf- the 1 sec GCD on Shot was a bug, not a feature. In this game, the CD on Shot has always been dependent on the speed of the bow- if your bow is a 4 speed, it has a longer CD than a bow with a 1.8 speed.

This is why rogue/scouts almost always look for bows (as opposed to crossbows) with fast speeds. Both the Bow of Assembled Parts and the Toxic Bow are popular r/s choices on Palenque- I am sure servers killing higher end bosses will be using different stuff.

This correction effects scout/x combos a whole lot more than x/scout combos. As a rogue, your dps will be almost unaffected by this change, as r/s has an elite skill I believe which decreases the CD on shot.

Scouts on the other hand have a real reason to be angry- but not because of this change to Shot.

The GCD was removed from caster skills but not from the scout skills with a cast time. GCD was a real nerf to scouts, and scout was not a class that needed a nerf.

The change to Shot will decrease their dps. On it's own, the change to Shot is needed, simply because without it, there is no reason to have a speed on bows and crossbows.

However, they still need to remove the GCD from scout skills that have a cast time. Without GCD on skills with a cast time (such as combo shot and elites), most scout combos will function correctly.
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Friday, December 23rd 2011, 9:17am

Quoted from "ChaosArmored;496098"

Oh where oh where can it be? Instead of my baby being lost this new patch may of misplaced something more precious to me...my dps.

I'm new to the R/s class combo and I've read a few articles about it in the forums. I've learned that one of the key reasons that R/s is such a good class combo is because we are able to sustain single-target dps by using our scout skills that we obtain from our secondary classes to fill in the gaps of where our short supply of energy zaps out.

From the patch our beloved skill called Shot received a 3 second cool-down. I haven't been able to run a high instance yet with my R/s but I can see that our once coveted dps has been flushed down the drain.

I'm not at all an experienced R/s yet but others including the Scout class who truly are the masters of this skill but I've decided to make this thread to try and inform from my perspective of things is that this nerf has caused much more damage than good. I would like to try and make a solution to this but I simply lack the experience of playing this class at the higher levels.

Also not only this class combo has been effected. The classes that have Scout as secondary and the Scouts themselves have lost out on one of their best skills


Shot shouldn't be at a 3 second cooldown unless you're under lvl 50. Max out speed shooting mastery and the rogue attack speed general. Shot is a filler skill for r/s when their energy is low, not a spam skill with Max dps.

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Sunday, December 25th 2011, 11:34pm

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Wednesday, January 4th 2012, 12:57am

Since you are a R/S, your primary class is Rogue meaning you are a dual dagger slice and dice machine of death. Your scout class is there to throw in some additional DPS into your high DPS repetoire.

Your main DPS as a Rogue are your daggers.

You can fire your Shot + Vamp combo to pull the mobs to you and unleash your shadowstab combo on them, or hide + backstab/blind stab and unleash the shadowstab combo.

While the CD is going on, fire those Shots and Vamp Arrows to keep the DPS up. Premed + Shot + Vamp arrows are my openers.

Once you get Shadow Step, it gets fun to stab mobs in the back when they are in your face.
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