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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 5:43am

Mass Burn

An idea a friend of mine came up with a long time back, resurfaced in guild chat and figured I would share with the rest of you...

The goal was to find the theoretical fastest way to burn bosses. Putting things like 10m damage wound attacks from 1 player aside, we came up with 2 mehtods:

Method 1 (my favourite)
9x m/wd
2x healer
s1x tank with a lot of taunts...(preferably k/w for debuff)

9 x 20 flames = 180 flames in 4s. If each flame does an average for 500k damage, then in 4 seconds your group does 90m damage. That's first boss belathis (or bethomia) hard mode dead in 4s. And 500k flames with a k/w debuff isn't that farfetched in either instance, although it would be much harder in Belathis but still theoretically possible. GG

Method 2: This method is more practical in Belathis hard mode, since the defense plays a smaller role in regards to damage output

9x warriors
1x k/w tank
2x healers

All warriors use 2h axes. Slash and Tactical Attack for the damage. Tactical attack will hit 11 times from each warrior if the k/w has a slash bleed on the boss. If each tactical attack does an average of 300k damage, that's 29.7m damage in 1 second. Tactical attack has a 4s cd. So the rotation looks like:
Slash 5.4m dmg (600k ea x 9 the k/w dmg is omitted)
Tactical Attack 29.7m dmg
4s worth of dps 21.6m dmg
Slash 5.4m dmg
Tactical attack 29.7m dmg

Assuming each warrior does an average of 600k dps (sans the tactical attacks), it would take 6 seconds (2 tactical attacks from each warrior) to kill the a 90m HP boss (or 9s to give some leeway on slow players)

Anyone have any other crazy ideas to do insane damage in a short time? I know of s/r but....scout.....nuff said


Edit: why did the first time I edit the post result in all the formatting disappearing, and it all becomming a huge wall of text? :(
Edit2: correct calculation error in method 2

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "BlankMinded" (Feb 5th 2014, 5:59am)


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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 6:17am

Method 3 :


Just learn the strats? >_>
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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 6:19am

Forgot about the wl/m with its 36% fire damage increase.

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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 7:02am

While learning the strats is one way to kill bosses, the point of the thread is to try to come up with creative ways to "burn" bosses. Instead of just having 4 OP players doing 2m dps each, you can try having weaker m/wds all going super burn mode and see what happens, for example.

And @ ziav, ofc adding in wl/m would improve damage output, but that's assuming the wl/m even has enough time to put the 4 stacks on boss before the boss is dead xD

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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 7:39am

okay my apologies ^_^

Tank ==> Warden/Warrior

DPS:
10 X Warden/Warriors

Heals:
Warden/Druid

All that Wdn/war pdmg buffage and you are GG
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This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "Lolim" (Feb 5th 2014, 8:20am)


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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 12:12pm

Youvare forgetting about sw titles, ironblood will adds 20% more damage. Soldiers attack, morevpatt/matt/casting/attack speed. Firevtraoning more speed also. Midnight marquis, lowers bosses defense, druid seed buffs, k/w buff, m/WL s/r d/r s/w, all of these should provide a preety nice nuke on a beth boss if filled out with r/m and w/m in party also

Edit: I forgot wd/s for nature crystal to :D
99/99/99/99/99/99 W/WD/S/D/R/M

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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 2:07pm

I would have to agree with Lolim, except for the druid/warden part. 10/11 warden/warriors (geared like the top wd/w on Govinda (not those icky plate tanks)) and druid/scout or warrior (d/wd briar doesnt really work with the wd's briar, though you could put it on the non-tanks i guess) and you have super OP dps for any/every fight, be it burn or longer fights.
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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 2:17pm

if u can bring 11 warrior in a pt and if they know how to use Bleeds and TA, then any boss in this game is dead. when using multiple warriors the dmg of the group is greater than the sum of individual damage.

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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 2:55pm

Howabout....

1 k/p
1 wd/s
1 c/p
1 wl/m
1 r/m or wd/w
1 s/d (no that's not a typo)

1 k/w Tank
1 d/w
1 s/r
1 s/wd
1 m/wl
1 other healer


Buff the pdmg,attack speed and attack power of the r/m or wd/w in group 1 to an insanely high amount, while debuffing boss for more damage received. The s/d provides rage/energy to the dps in group 1 to spam more skills. 6m dps player without sigil? .

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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 3:24pm

The s/d provides rage/energy to the dps in group 1 to spam more skills.

while i appreciate people trying to bring the more unique combos into groups, the energy, rage, focus regen is only 30 every 30 seconds(aka, useless), as well as broke atm(does not increase regen with plussing, so it is stuck at lvl 0 values, which is like 10 over 10 sec)...

however, s/d has aggro reduction skills for 2nd highest on table, as well as a damage taken reduced for random people in the party...
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 3:55pm

Did some testing with said skill, its apparently bugged. With a +50 efficiency guidance and +59 vamp arrow, I only get 2 rage....However it did trigger EVERY vamp arrow.

Guess use a s/k >.>

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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 5:06pm

Don't forget a S/wr, it has locked on 30 secs out of 60 and that increases the dmg of the whole group by 10%.

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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 6:14pm

Good call on the s/w Hangman. that could replace the m/wl if the goal is to ignore defense and go for a +pdmg group.

Also, in regards to s/d....

While this makes no sense, Efficiency Guidance at +0 (that is not a typo, it is plus zero) yields the full 30 rage/focus/energy regen and activates EVERY vamp arrow. So 30 rage/focus/energy every 12s. Pretty good....If you have Efficiency Guidance at +50 you get a whopping 2 rage/focus/energy. Backwards effects ftw?

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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 7:26pm

Can the tank even hold aggro in any of those parties?

and M/Wd party sounds like it could cause a server crash lol.
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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 8:24pm

in the m/wd case, the mages need only use candy since the boss will die in 4s.

In the other cases, idk about aggro lol. Just assume possible xD. Lots of taunts ftw?

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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 8:50pm

The healer could be a bubble immune priest, cast after candy as an OH CRAP SOMEONE DIDNT USE THE BUFF>

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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 11:34pm

We're assuming no lag, not a single miss, and that every single flame crits. All three of these are extraordinarily unlikely.
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Wednesday, February 5th 2014, 11:47pm

Indeed. But as stated in the original post, "THEORETICAL" methods. It might be impossible or impractical, but that doesn't mean we can't write about it.

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Thursday, February 6th 2014, 7:14pm

K/W + 11 C/M in DPS mode, all using Elemental Rampage at the same time :D

M/Wd would be feasible if you get a Wl/M to debuff the boss with 36% fire damage first and if healer is P/R (10% matk). That and K/W allows mages to do 500k Flames non-crit. And at lv 82, I hardly get resisted at Beth. Only problem would be lag... A few hundred flames going off at the same place and time is not good for FPS and ping lol.
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Thursday, February 6th 2014, 10:15pm

Lol didn't consider c/m's. That would be interesting...11c/m so each one would need to do 8.1m Elemental rampages on a 90m hp boss. I know it hits for millions of damage, but has anyone ever hit for 8.1m ?