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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 1:34am

If that happened, Borella, I suspect I could easily make a lot of dire predictions for the game considering where it's at. :) The one positive I will predict is there would be a significant decrease in the number of posts in these forums and in world chat with the 'I'm a better/smarter human being than you are because I run endgame' as their basis. :)

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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 2:01am

Most of you midgamers are so clueless. What are you gonna do when all the endgamers finally quit and can't carry you through instances anymore? Midgame guilds on Reni are still struggling with instances that are 3 instances behind cap. They aren't even close to clearing Pillars without endgamers. Soon to be 4 instances behind cap once 95 hits.

Keep running your minigames for all eternity. I hope that's fun for you. Instances are only getting harder and nobody is keeping up. The 95 instance is about to invalidate all of the time that we have spent on Crypt of Eternity.

And GF/RW wonders why the game is dying/dead.



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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 7:22am

I think that tanks and healers can get by a lot easier wearing outdated gear than dps can, be cause parties are so reliant on the dps to burn faster. I was rocking KbN and proof lvl 75 gear and was tanking grotto HM no problem before I upgraded.

I think the classes that have the hardest time jumping from midgame to endgame, are PHYSICAL DPS.

Tanks only need Stam pdef pat and hp, which you can get from shells eojs crafted gear (easy mode) and maybe poms if you really want. Healers are pretty much in the same boat as tanks. And they can get Stam wis from dreamland as well.
Magic users get their int Matt the same way healer and tanks get Stam pdef.
Physical dps have a limited pool they can pull str pat and dex pat from. They don't HAVE to wear te latest PoM stats, but most resort to PoM stating even when they don't feel they can afford to simply because of the lack of diversity they have in stats they can pull.


To those guilds that are mid game trying to get to endgame: get good at Beth if you can't do grotto. The gear is almost as good because of that extra tier you get. And it's a pretty awesome stepping stone to endgame. A lot easier to take steps than try to jump the full gap. And Beth is a good place for parties that can't burn. Most bosses don't gear check and one shot full parties in there, so if you fight the long fight, don't be afrai to try it. 80 gear is far better than 70 gear. And I think endgamers would be happy to see midgame guilds trying to advance themselves with Beth. I won't judge you for it lol. A lot of people have decent dps rocking full Beth sets still, so have at it!
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 8:15am

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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 5:11pm

lol, love how everyone is having a go at each other over whether RW should release new content or not. As if the puny population and their input from the US region is gone make any difference what so ever on whether RW and GF should or shouldnt do something. Its more likely that RW and GFs first concern is what the way more populated german and EU servers want and what they think on said content related matter. Just cause we cant clear stuff due to lack of players doesnt mean they cant and arent bored of it already and ready to move on. They will always go with the majority, we just sadly dont have enough people on our side to have our thoughts taken into consideration. ;( ;( ;(
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 5:15pm

They haven't even cleared the lvl 92 instance yet, I believe. But even if they have, it's a DE guild that has and that's only due to them utilizing ch/m to kill the first boss after a multitude of wipes because of the bugged first boss. Bottom line is that no one is really ready for new content from being bored of current content.
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 5:19pm

Ah lol, I hear ya on the ch/m issue; seems the only way to go forward with lack of people. My guild doesnt have enough people to burn coeh bosses either, well not enough melee anyway, we are mostly mages. So waiting for the guild leader to cap his ch/m and then hopefully finally clear coeh, and maybe hoe( he says day dreaming). You never know, they might make the lvl 95 instance a little easier so everyone can just skip the bugged lvl 92 one. I would be fine with that tbh.
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 6:35pm

That would all depend on the strats released with it, cause as it currently stands the bosses in the 95 instance are MUCH more difficult than any in game so for, stat wise.
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 6:39pm

Well with all the people complaining about midgamers not being able to run endgame etc, you guys make me laugh, calling out Knightshift that can only run Grotto hardmode cause VVV members are there, come on get off your soap box. I have cleared Grotto with them and no VVV members were there.

Some people/guilds don't need the stress or the elitist losing their minds over wipes, mishaps, etc. Ya a lot of us who spends money for diamonds do our thing, when runs are available we get on them to have fun!!!! We don't have to run endgame, we don't have to re-gear and restat every level cap, we don't have to get the BEST gear since we are all losers midgamers.

They should adjust normal mode instances to help midgamers to be able to enjoy themselves and learn strats for the bosses, even make it 12 man but leaving them as is. Hardmode should never be 18 man, guess some people just want to farm more mems lol. Ya Runewaker % and calculation are the worst in any games i've seen but it is what it is and to Gameforge to pressure them or adjust bosses a bit better.

To those who say the new instance will invalidate COE gear, guess you shouldn't have been sitting on them so long and tried to sell them before LOL. Good for you.

To Borella, just wow, how full of yourself are you? why don't you just quit?? since you hate everyone else but your elitist friends? i miss the days when Elvie, Sadakko were here, running with us, helping us, those were true endgamers. You just disrespected 90% of Reni's population ,great job there. Who cares if normal players can't run the latest instances? who cares if when they do they wipe and wipe but trying to learn and do it?? do you think you are on every run people try stuff in game? do you know everything that is happening in game all the time? get off your elitist soap box cause you are making a mockery of the few good elitist that we have on Reni who ARE WILLING to help.

The game is low population because most who left where tired of gear at 100M/200M a piece UD and non stated, tired of the bad attitude some elitist have towards other players who try to improve themselves just to be shut down and laughed off by said elitist. Some think because they have no elitist to run with, that the game is dead, that is so funny. Also some people come to the game to relax from a hard days work, do a few things they like to change their minds off of things, they are not all running on Redbull and stress out of their minds because of the game. They are here to have FUN!! if you can't find that in game, why are you here??

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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 7:02pm

Dat new ini staff tho.
Shame nobody will clear the instance.
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 7:13pm

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Well with all the people complaining about midgamers not being able to run endgame etc, you guys make me laugh, calling out Knightshift that can only run Grotto hardmode cause VVV members are there, come on get off your soap box. I have cleared Grotto with them and no VVV members were there.


zid: grotto is 4 caps old. it's really a moot point.

if people are seriously using grotto as an example that "runs are happening", then the community as a whole is nowhere near ready for another instance. in the past it would be somewhat expected that midgame guilds can farm grotto at this point.
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 7:35pm

Cike yet again, do you have runs on Palenque that runs it over and over?? on hardmode that is? do you participate in said runs? have you done the higher instances? on hardmode that is? When you have someone disrespecting 95% of the community on Reni, should we bow down and kiss their arse?? i know some seems to tend to do that cause they do research but i won't :P . The disrespect of some elitist towards the community is another point that drives players away and new players not to try this great game.

Most people don't care about siege, don't care about running instances, they are just trying to have fun. If the elitist say that regular players can't run hardmode instance before being 4 level caps higher, what does that matter? at least they will get it done in time at their pace. The elitist seems to be bothered by the fact that they don't have enough of their friends to play with, can't get COE runs often enough etc, should have thought of that 3 years ago when the population was still awesome and thriving and give back instead of price gouging the community.

Cike why do you say the community is not ready for another level cap?? you talking about yourself there?? i would say that 75% of Reni cannot wait for the level cap, new quests, new stats, new gear, new scenery, maybe some new potions and food YIPPIE!!!!. We all know the new instance will not be open, just like all the way back to Bedim, they will have to fix it etc and i am fine with that, no one could clear it if not level 95 anyways.


But guess what, you don't want it, Borella and friends don't want it?? but we are still getting it either way and there is nothing we can do to change that :beer: People should learn to be more positive in life and that the need of many outweighs the need of the few, life would be so wonderful!!!!!




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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 7:35pm

Being ready or not means nothing.

Extra levels will help on crit rate and new stats are always nice. Those things help people clear instances even if they are a couple of level caps old.
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 7:41pm

Crafted staves are not bad either





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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 8:11pm

Being ready or not means nothing.

Extra levels will help on crit rate and new stats are always nice. Those things help people clear instances even if they are a couple of level caps old.

agree, however my argument is the fact that there is really no net movement in status towards being able to clear endgame (or even higher relative level) content.

if everybody just wants to regularly run content 3 caps old, then doing nothing to fix the underlying issues while still releasing content is perfectly fine. however, most people argue that "why do we need more content when we can't even run the current content?".

if you view the "current" content as whatever you can run atm, then yes, a new cap will bring new "current" content (guilds goes from running grotto to pillers).


the point still stand about /broken/ content. no reason to release new content when current endgame is, by all metrics, broken and unclearable. it cycles back to the "fix what you have before you make new stuff" argument.




the only people that i can see being excited for new content are the minigame farmers that farm shell stats, crafters, and the pve quest-oriented players (title hunters, etc). anybody that wants to do pve for the instances already has "new" content that they have yet to do. a new cap is just going to add more stuff they can't do, with the option of maybe running previously unaccessable content more easily, which is still a maybe, as with 92 instance being broken, you aren't going to see any guilds go from farming CoE to veiled crypt (lol, like lots of people can even farm CoE).


in short, i'd say that most players arguing for holding off of new content are not saying they don't /want/ new content, they are simply stating that RW would be better off directing resources to addressing the underlying issues with the current game dynamic instead of trying to push out new stuff on a flawed foundation.
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 8:11pm

I had so much to reply to but that comparison of the 95 hm staff too the crafted one kinda trumped it all... Cause there is no comparison lol, that staff is garbage (when compared to the 95 hm one.) There is a lot of crafted gear is very nice actually, crafted daggers even. Then they throw this junk staff at us :(
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 8:21pm

Lol ofc theres no comparison the lvl 95 hm staff has crit, its the first mage staff with crit since hoson, if it didnt have crit then I would prolly lean towards the crafted one. And it drops on the second to last boss, annoyingly
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 8:34pm

Why lean toward the crafted if there was no crit? It's like 1k+ less mdmg lol... Last crit staff was the lvl 77 Doom Cycle, the staff of the M/Wl.
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 8:40pm

Crafted gear can always be used to get you that little bit extra to be able to do latest instance easier... when you happen to get a replacement weapon... then you can sell that weapon for some tier stones to use to tier up new weapon.... always loved this idea for all players, gives someone who wants to put a little bit of work in making some tier stones... a weapon for free already plussed up. ( more like a trade w.e)
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 8:41pm

Ah yes but the losers midgamers will be happy to be able to obtain a better staff for a reasonable price and some will get them for free too, cause we all know the new staff will be demanding 500M UD on Reni as usual. also the 95 instance will surely be closed for 1 month or 2 until bugs are done, so for people wanting to upgrade their 75/80/85 staves they will have a cheap option to do so. But gogogo go get yours in there, you can do it :P Also take notice i only plussed it to +18 compared to the other one at +20, might not have crit but it will be cheap/free to friends on Reni :beer:

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