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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 8:42pm

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Why lean toward the crafted if there was no crit? It's like 1k+ less mdmg lol... Last crit staff was the lvl 77 Doom Cycle, the staff of the M/Wl.

because the work that is needed to be put in to farm an od staff from the 6th boss isn't worth my time I would happily buy one of ppl or use an ud one, just cant justify the stupid amount of time needed to get an od one, and im a m/w I can easily do my part of the dps even with a crafted staff
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 9:01pm

Not arguing that. Simply said if you had the choice between the two why pick the crafted one as it's much weaker. I also feel bad for your prices over there, but that also comes from the fact that that things like Potions and foods ect are so over priced there too, last I checked. As it does take many potions and food to be able to obtain these hardmode items. Still not worth 500m correct, but then again that's a bit of an exaggeration also.

As for you being a M/W, that has nothing to do with the fact you would gain over 1k raw mdmg from a hm staff if available to you, like how is this even being argued, it's so sad.
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 9:14pm

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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 9:17pm

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Not arguing that. Simply said if you had the choice between the two why pick the crafted one as it's much weaker. I also feel bad for your prices over there, but that also comes from the fact that that things like Potions and foods ect are so over priced there too, last I checked. As it does take many potions and food to be able to obtain these hardmode items. Still not worth 500m correct, but then again that's a bit of an exaggeration also.

As for you being a M/W, that has nothing to do with the fact you would gain over 1k raw mdmg from a hm staff if available to you, like how is this even being argued, it's so sad.

feel bad for pot and food prices where? and its 740.4 increase in mdmg if both staff are od plus 20 and t12, don't just round things to the nearest 1000.
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 9:23pm

dont forget to add in your bonuses too
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 9:26pm

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dont forget to add in your bonuses too
mages don't get passive weapon dmg boost, all dmg comes from gears and pre boss cds
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 9:26pm

Meh it just boils down to ppl settling for mediocrity and never striving for the best stuff.
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 9:29pm

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dont forget to add in your bonuses too
mages don't get passive weapon dmg boost, all dmg comes from gears and pre boss cds

yes, but they still increase the difference in damage.
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 10:06pm

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dont forget to add in your bonuses too
mages don't get passive weapon dmg boost, all dmg comes from gears and pre boss cds

yes, but they still increase the difference in damage.

ehh ive been playing m/w for a relatively long time now and I can argue all day on the merits and deciding factors on whether one should use a hard mode staff or a crafted one and how things like how often ones guild runs said hm instance and how many other mages in said guild that one has to compete with for said staff makes a big impact on the whole subject. If someone as a g1 dps can do their portion of the dps regardless of what gear they are using, then its sufficient enough for me, cause if you cant pull your weight then you shouldn't be in the raid even if you are all orange stated with t8 gear and t13 weapon (which some people seem to make purely for the sake of citing arbitrary numbers).

But at the end of the day ch/m dps makes all other dps combo obsolete.
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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 10:47pm

Zid as usual talking about things he doesn't understand. You people make me laugh. Tell me the last time a piece of gear was actually 500M UD.. you can't.

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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 11:14pm

Borella as usual with the personal attacks, propose an opinion that is useful to all of the community, not just you. I have my opinions and i stand by them, a lot of people voice their opinions in game all the time cause they are scared to post here since you are not open to listen, just me me me. When i go against the ME omg flames/fire/thunder comes down, you could propose something for the good of the community as a whole and i know you can, try it you could feel the love from your fellow Renians :beer:

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Saturday, September 19th 2015, 11:59pm

You still never answered. There's a huge difference between an opinion and a false statement. When was the last time a HM piece of UD gear went for 500m in AH in Reni?
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Sunday, September 20th 2015, 12:21am

Apologies Ancient, Zid linked the Staff at +18 for some reason rather Ruisens +20, so the comparison was slightly off however the point remains the same. Honestly all I'm hearing you say is you'll let the others in your guild get the staff first so they can carry you, which is nice of you sure but in the same way just taking the easy path and making all the others do the hard work. Which is when guilds fail.
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Sunday, September 20th 2015, 12:35am

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Apologies Ancient, Zid linked the Staff at +18 for some reason rather Ruisens +20, so the comparison was slightly off however the point remains the same. Honestly all I'm hearing you say is you'll let the others in your guild get the staff first so they can carry you, which is nice of you sure but in the same way just taking the easy path and making all the others do the hard work. Which is when guilds fail.
Guess for personal attacks and none constructive criticism, only PPK players and other endgamers don't get vacations from the forums like me for that. Try to post something constructive on the forums for once, i do all the time but it gets on the anti-Zid train and they all latch into it. When was the last time any of you had a suggestion related to help the community except all the negativity or yourselves??? Guess you can't take it that people are helping other people in game, well have fun.

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Sunday, September 20th 2015, 12:39am

Wth? That wasn't even directed towards you it was a conversation with Ancient loool, did you even read it or just see your name and be like "Must be a personal attack rawrrrrr!"... Like really.

And yes because your post there was very informative and constructive as well. gg

Edit: As I should address your reply anyway: Firstly, I'm not in PPK, secondly, there is no such thing as a endgamer currently on the US servers. Thirdly, I've had positive suggestions and have discussed them in game and on the forums, might actually bother making forums threads if a suggestion achieved something other then a argument but sadly the players are always ignored.
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Sunday, September 20th 2015, 12:46am

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Dat new ini staff tho.
Shame nobody will clear the instance.



I haven't been on in awhile, is Hall of Chaos even open yet?

If not, that new level 95 hm staff (like for like at +20 t12) is creeping right behind the Hall of Chaos staff that is 5 levels back and about 5 times more work than getting that hm instance staff will be.

**IF the numbers are correct the Hall of Chaos weapon is still noticeably better, ringing in at 450.4 more mDAM and 6988.8 more MATTK (and slightly more mcrit and int but barely). But why go through all that work when you can just get the new level 95 hm staff to tide you over til level 97 when it (most likely) will make the Hall of Chaos weapon obsolete.


Are Hall of Chaos weapons just going to be like all the other brown weapons? Obsolete before they're even released?






**this is of course assuming one has the capacity / power to obtain either weapon
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Sunday, September 20th 2015, 12:51am

Disregarding strats, HoC bosses would be easier too kill, as I'm currently unaware of the strats for either as neither has yet been released, it appears for now that HoC would be easier. (same crit resist lower hp and lower lvl bosses) However the time spent farming the essences of course becomes a factor as well :p So it may be possible that HoC may be worth running for weapons, but its very close to soon being as useless as CV was. Which is a huge disappointment for everyone eagerly awaiting those weapons since level 87 cap. SO YES,I 100% AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT AND WHY IT'S AN ISSUE.

Editted in caps, Acy ^.^ (rather making another post.)
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Sunday, September 20th 2015, 12:53am

*EDIT*


I see that now R2P, edited as well xD


We all saw this happening. Anyone that's been around long enough to know their track record anyways. They have yet to release brown weapons when they're already NOT obsolete.


4th time's a charm? Maybe? If the game lives that long to introduce new brown weapons past level 100?

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