Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "Deltatester;198759"

Saying that M/P are overpower are just trolls or people who did not reach level 55 yet. That is a fact

M/P IS overpowered. there is no denying that at all. Maybe they are not overpowered when dealing with rogues, at lvl55 or not, but they are OP to all classes, including rogues that are not aware of your presence.

Any class that can stun every 15 seconds for 5 seconds, silence their opponent for 5-8 seconds every 24 seconds, and root them every 20 seconds with an instant cast that does not break on damage, AND toss out 4000+ flames with 2k instant cast fireballs is overpowered in pvp.

The rogue on the other hand does have balancing issues as well, but in my opinion, should be left alone to deal with the scourge that is mages in this game.

Ultimately, what I'd like to personally see is other classes brought up to par with both of these classes. Instead of a game called Rogues or Mages, let's create a game of diversity...

maragon, sorry but you are wrong... Like Delta said, you are low level. The accurate values are more likely 10k+ flames with 6k instant fireball for a MEDIUM GEARED mage. A greatly geared mage on my server would flame for 17k. But anyway, imo, a mage using flame in pvp vs a rogue have much to learn about pvp. Best rogue which completely out-gear this mage would hit me for 4.6k with blind spot (pretty much his strongest attack in 1 strike)

Anyway Delta, I am lvl 55, W/K;W/S and P/M are my chars atm. I beat rogues daily on each one of them, my P/M having the easiest time with them [When you will go further in the game, you will learn that any caster is OP due to a magic system completely broken in pvp]. So I am sorry but the problem are not rogues, it's you.

Apologies that I commented while not being in the high level club. And while I know my #'s aren't accurate, I do pay attention to what's going on around me. And you might be an exception to the rule, due to outstanding gear and ability to play your class, the percentages are higher on rogue side that they kill their targets then not.

yea, admittedly i am somewhat of a noob. meaning i don't have as much experience in this game as others. and i never disagreed with your comment about rogues being overpowered. but i do disagree with your statement of m/p NOT being overpowered.

try playing a warden primary, or druid primary, and see what it's like fighting an m/p... all of a sudden you'll feel like you do about rogues, towards m/p and rogues lol

granted, i'm not 55, and i do see rogues kill 85-95% of the time, any caster, beit m/p, or any other m/x combo. i have however seen whitegoddess own a few rogues that felt lucky, and she was p/m.

*EDIT* your class beats down about any other class in the game, and yet you whine over the one class that kills you? jeez

lol Delta, you are such a joke... Seriously, do you really think every mages will post a youtube video showing himself PKing a rogue? And stop using words like facts in your nonsense, this is getting old.

Just roll a rogue and come back to cry more, if you fail as a mage you will fail as anything.

When my download limit will reset, I will gladly ask some mages friends to posts videos of them beating down rogues. I will even try to fraps myself doing so, even winning against some that outgears me, just tell me which char you want me to show you (W/K, W/S or P/M).

I win against rogues... How does that feel?

Quoted from "maragon;199306"

Any class that can stun every 15 seconds for 6 seconds, silence their opponent for 5-8 seconds every 24 seconds, and root them every 20 seconds with an instant cast that does not break on damage, AND toss out 4000+ flames with 2k instant cast fireballs is overpowered in pvp.

First of all, Discharge is a 5 second (not 6) stun. Second of all, keep in mind that what you said applies to all mages, and not exclusively just M/P...So your arguments are kinda faulty =/

Quoted from "Estarius;199313"

Anyway Delta, I am lvl 55, W/K;W/S and P/M are my chars atm. I beat rogues daily on each one of them, my P/M having the easiest time with them [When you will go further in the game, you will learn that any caster is OP due to a magic system completely broken in pvp]. So I am sorry but the problem are not rogues, it's you.

LMAO @ that. Your posts make me laugh. Everyone knows that once a Rogue uses the Sneak Attack -> Low Blow *insert silence skill here* -> Wound Attack combo against a clothie (low defense..), you're screwed unless you outgear them. I can understand that you can win if you survive those 3+ seconds, but chances are that you won't live that long to recover..

What's your dex. at on your warrior accounts? I doubt you can even lay a scratch on a rogue with 2k+ dex, since they'll just dodge it...

Quoted from "Estarius;200302"

Seriously, do you really think every mages will post a youtube video showing himself PKing a rogue?

mage* And no, cause the only time a mage PKs a rogue is when they are caught unstealthed, which rarely happens..

Quoted from "Estarius;200302"

And stop using words like facts in your nonsense, this is getting old.

Tell yourself that too.

Quoted from "Estarius;200302"

Just roll a rogue and come back to cry more, if you fail as a mage you will fail as anything.

Trolling FTL

Quoted from "Estarius;200302"

lol Delta, you are such a joke... Seriously, do you really think every mages will post a youtube video showing himself PKing a rogue? And stop using words like facts in your nonsense, this is getting old.

Just roll a rogue and come back to cry more, if you fail as a mage you will fail as anything.

When my download limit will reset, I will gladly ask some mages friends to posts videos of them beating down rogues. I will even try to fraps myself doing so, even winning against some that outgears me, just tell me which char you want me to show you (W/K, W/S or P/M).

can you plz explain to me how you can kill rogues?

my 14k HP knight cant kill any rogue who has about 1700 DEX (and up), and I have about 800 DEX on a knight, which is more then any other knights I know.

HP doesnt really matter...but pretty much if a rogue has 9k HP (and 1700 DEX) its impossible to hit...

Priest and warriors are usualy a rogues bane
i can hold my own with most rogues on pvp as a priest scout.
usualy heavy tanks are a rogues bane..

yes the guys who built the tank for pve with stacked stam and crap PA wont hit the rogue but a good warrior will destroy most rogues.

problem is rogue gets to choose his fights and then run away due to stealth there for they prety much never lose.

as a 55 priest 53 scout and i can hold my own with almost any rogue around on Grimdal and rask can atest to that.

you have a singular problem here .. .99 percent of you cry babies that say you cant compete wel the reason is you gear yourself just for straight pve and dont put the things needed for pvp on your suit.

well when you run into a pvp geared rogue you get rolled up hard as a result.

as a pvp priest i have tons of intell to help my nukes along with plenty of wis and enough stam to hit 16 k hit points but i also have a defense mod on most my gear and stam and def runes on most my gear.. end result i can actualy take a hit .. you glass cannons that stack nothing but int and have like 3 k pdef are going to be owned by rogues.. same goes for you tanks that stat pure stam and have no phys atack.

now if the rogue has 20 + k hit points and can guzzle 60 percent phirius pots like a certain rogue can its a rough road to roll down.

rogues are suposed to kill mages ... live with that its rock paper scisors .. rogues are the scisors to the mage.

like i said as a priest scout there is prety much only ONE rogue on server that kills me more often then i kill him in a 1v1

yes it requires very good gear but your talking about rogues n very very good gear who are destroying you as well

you die becuase you dont have your gear setup right for pvp then

there is not a rogue on the server who can kill me before his stun wears off i always get to put up a fight now days.

put some pdef on your gear man. no rogue on server can stun me and silence me and then kill me before i even get to put up a fight any more.

it used to happen to me all the time but i said ok what is the probelm.. im being hit to hard ... so i put pdef on one slot on most my gear and now no problems

and when i say 1v1 i dont mean hey im rigth here coem find me i mean when they jump me out of stealth without me expecting it.

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