Runes of Magic US / AU

My main warrior got roughly ~140 accuracy, quite enough to hit the best rogue on my server [way over 2k dex btw]. **

Quoted from "Deltatester;200501"

A rogue don't even need to be well geared to beat a mage that is with three times better gear. To even stack enough stam to give yourself a chance to fight them seem impossible. First of all it's already impossible to survive the attack, second of all even when you survive the attack of course the chances are they can still kill you. They can use pvp gloves too.

well, it seems u didn't come here to learn from some of the educated people that posted here to give you ideas to help you with the problem you seem to have. i'm definitely not saying i'm one of those people, but i've read many posts on this thread alone that gives me some advice.

you're admitting failure before you even take up their advice. get over yourself and try some new things. you seriously need to stop assuming you're doing everything right and look at what you can do right.

Quoted from "sacarguy;200493"

Priest and warriors are usualy a rogues bane
i can hold my own with most rogues on pvp as a priest scout.
usualy heavy tanks are a rogues bane..

LMAO. Are we playing the same game? Priest and warriors are rogue's bane? Oh yes I forgot, you have 15k HP...so lemme elaborate, you can easily kill 15-16k HP Rogues (esp R/M)? Cuz you know...that would be the equivalent of an equally geared Rogue... and lemme guess you use t9 lv55 purple staff? Now give that to a rogue and he'll 3-4 shot you.

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yes the guys who built the tank for pve with stacked stam and crap PA wont hit the rogue but a good warrior will destroy most rogues.

ummm tanks are mostly built for PVE.... and you start off talking about a tank and switch off to a warrior and say that Warriors (who mind you DON'T stack crap PA/STR and STAM, rofl) can hot rogues?

Enlighten me whats the difference b/w a Tank(I assume you meant a knight) who stacks Stam+ PA and a Warrior who stacks Str+ Stam when fighting a 2000+ DEX Rogue? I'm really intrigued...

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problem is rogue gets to choose his fights and then run away due to stealth there for they prety much never lose.

umm ok so 1) its not a problem its the way the class is built (stealth lets em pick fights) 2) you claim Priests, warriors and even tanks can own Rogues and then you admit that Rogues never lose... pick a side lol?

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as a 55 priest 53 scout and i can hold my own with almost any rogue around on Grimdal and rask can atest to that.

"As a K/S I can hold my own vs any newly lvl 50 mage in quest gear with 2k HP and a t3 staff", oh wait... last I checked Rask had only 12k HP and crappy blue t6 daggers....giver him same weapons and 15k (should be 16k HP really) and see how u fare.

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you have a singular problem here .. .99 percent of you cry babies that say you cant compete wel the reason is you gear yourself just for straight pve and dont put the things needed for pvp on your suit.

well when you run into a pvp geared rogue you get rolled up hard as a result.

as a pvp priest i have tons of intell to help my nukes along with plenty of wis and enough stam to hit 16 k hit points but i also have a defense mod on most my gear and stam and def runes on most my gear.. end result i can actualy take a hit .. you glass cannons that stack nothing but int and have like 3 k pdef are going to be owned by rogues.. same goes for you tanks that stat pure stam and have no phys atack.

wait i thought PA was a crap stat for a tank? "yes the guys who built the tank for pve with stacked stam and crap PA wont hit the rogue"

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now if the rogue has 20 + k hit points and can guzzle 60 percent phirius pots like a certain rogue can its a rough road to roll down.

if a tank has 30k HP and rogue has 10-15k HP and 2200+ Dex rogue wins. Period. Talk about imbalance **.

If a Warrior has 30k Str, and 10k HP, and same rogue has 10k HP and 2200+ DEX rogue wins. Period.

L2P, your 15k HP priest and cash shop up the ** won't solve everything.

rask can atest to that meaning rask has seen me kill the best rogues on server is why i meant he can atest to that i can take TWO average rogues since im extremely well geared.


crap pa = meaning they have crap for pasive atack becauyse they stacked nothing but stam.. there for they cant hit a dam thing a good war should have at least 6+k pa if you dont well you need to look at your gear again..

and no no rogue can three shot me or even come close i have right at 10 k pdef i get hit for probly one fifth what the average caster gets hit for by rogues..

why ? because I KNOW HOW to gear my char for pvp ... and i intended to be hard to kill.

in all honest truth man your gear is horrible for pvp and you need to l2p better before you scream nerf.

captain, you are largely overrating dex. A 2k dex rogue is a very noobish rogue and is extremely easy to hit too, the only way to make it hard to hit is using evasion, and still, on a 4k dex rogue I could still deliver some hits [I'd say ~30-40% were succesful hits]. This is with 140+ accuracy. IF they blind, THEN the problem starts. But I'd say 90% of the rogues don't know they have evasion and 99% don't know they can blind. (And still, I usually have my ignore pain ready, waiting for the moment they will cast it to run away)

Quoted from "sacarguy;201095"

rask can atest to that meaning rask has seen me kill the best rogues on server is why i meant he can atest to that i can take TWO average rogues since im extremely well geared.


crap pa = meaning they have crap for pasive atack becauyse they stacked nothing but stam.. there for they cant hit a dam thing a good war should have at least 6+k pa if you dont well you need to look at your gear again..

and no no rogue can three shot me or even come close i have right at 10 k pdef i get hit for probly one fifth what the average caster gets hit for by rogues..

why ? because I KNOW HOW to gear my char for pvp ... and i intended to be hard to kill.

in all honest truth man your gear is horrible for pvp and you need to l2p better before you scream nerf.

Rogue/Warrior, Beisha Axe.

i agree the besia axe combined with the rogue warrior class combo plus the ability to use something other then low blow as a opener from stealth plus the 60 percent damage bonus from one hand axe mastery plus pre med has made it possible for a rogue war using abeshia axe to one shot even me with 16to 18 k hit points and 12 to 14 k pdef depending on buffs/foods

in my opinion the real problem is that with 14 k mdef you can reduce magic damage to the point that it is prety much a non issue while it takes around 25 to 28 k pdef to get the same reduction to melee damage.

curent game mechanics make pdef far less efective then mdef at recudion melee damage vs magic damage.

mdef needs to be reduced in how much it reduces magic damage in pvp and pdef needs a increase in how much it reduces meleee damage ... ie in the 12-16 k pdef needs a buff to how much melee damage it reduces and mdef needs a nerf to how much maqic damage it reduces ...


currently you can for all intents and purpose be totaly imune to magic damage in my pvp suit i have 18 k mdef and riseing tide from other preist hits me for 400 to 500 damage .. flame from high dps mages hits me for 2 to 3 k damage..

well wiht my one second cast self heal quick heal you simple can NOT out dps my heals unless you have 3 + casters on me.

it only gets worse when talkng a preist knight who can have 20 + k mdef.

< i amn a preist scout >

the damage on low mdef players should be lowered and the damage on high mdef players raised .. while vice versa the damage on high pdef players increase < knights etc > and the damage to low and medium pdef players lowered in order to balance out magic vs melee.


i will say that i also can instant kill very low < ie 3-4 k mdef > 12 k players by opening up with a rising tide then casting instant nukes i can land three spells and drop them instantly for all intents.

but if they get 12 k mdef that damage drops to 3k for rising tide and 800 ish for instant nuke..

while a melee character sees no such real reduction untill in the 20 + K PDEF range .. this needs to be rebalanced.

the difference here is for me to do the same and drop someone with 12-14 k hit points in a couple seconds they neeed to have around 2 to 4 k mdef... while rogues can do this to people with 10-15 k pdef at will if a rogue/war using a HOS axe.

i would have no problem with them doing it to people in low end gear like i can but they are doing it to people in the best gear you can get for a caster specificaly stated < with pdef > for pvp.

its simply no fun to have fights that last 1 second vs a equal gear player..

i just want fights that last a while win or lose at least that would be fun.

in the curent game i can have full foods up a hero pot and a phjoenix pot and i still lose 99.9 percent of the time.

as it stands at 14 k pdef and 18 j hits fully buffed and with food a w/r can take my fuill life bar with his opening atack cause the phoenix pot to go off and then beat my whole life bar off me again before the opening cc wears off.

You arn't considering equally geared than sacar. All of my stats passed yours by about 20% and our guild r/s with assassins rage can finish me before s/p removes. Also with 20k mdef, most of my guilds mage's can outburst me for 6-8k. I've got 19k hp, and 10k pdef self buffed (p/m no wave armor buff) and equally geared r/s still wins(equally geared imo to me is about 10k PA t9 bughook), r/k I can beat. Typically beating both in arena, just listen for premed and use immune. Not that I'm supporting the OP, rogues>casters it's life in every mmo, and in every mmo 50% of the casters cry about it.



p.s I just glanced at your posts and saw you are murky, GF in arena btw I'm Adversary from indigo, I allowed you a 1v1 in the 3v1. And personally I don't believe you have 18k mdef self buffed, your hp went down WAY to fast. I'm guessing more like 12-14~.

i have 18 k self buffed ill be happy to take a screen shot for you and you were not the only one hiting me btw thats why it went so fast.

i understand rogues being > casters but a rogue being able to insta kill a caster is just not right there should be SOME sort of fight.

yes your stats surpased me YOU ARE NOT ON PVP my stats are > any other priest on grimdall we cant wear full gear because WE DROP GEAR my friend . so yes you will have more stats. especial pdef and mdef because 1 you can wear FULL gear without any cash shop and 2 your server has hos stats sitting on the auction house there is only two guilds who can kill any bosses in hos on my server.. and only up to boss 3 and no one does orgins or either dragon dungeon.

you were no were near 20 percent better btw more like 10 percent i have 2700 stam 2680 iunt 2400 wis so unles your saying you have right at 3000 int wis and stam im calling bs.

the reason i have lower stats is i have to tri spec since i need damage on pvp while you can go much more stam heavy

Only other people in arena happened to be in vent with me, and I told them I wanted to 1v1 you, they didn't attack. Also I'm on Indigo, which is a pvp server as well, I die in pvp about once a month, no exaggeration, and I just swap gear when I reach 5k hp.

My stam is 2800 and my wisdom is 2400, with no potions or foods, my int is only 1350~ what do you consider self-buffed? I saw more green stats on your gear than yellows, and half the yellows were illumine V/VI, so I guess your some sort of amazing prodigy because your stats add up to more than the top EU priests. I'm pretty impressed, although I asked around, your well known for exaggerating about alot of things on your server, no offense, just doing my homework. Best geared priest on EU servers has about 3500 stam/wis and 1300 int. So your past priests in stats that are spending time in Zuridon Stronghold, on a server that is stuck on vrantal. So yes, I personally would like to see a screenshot. No pots, no outside buffs, no foods.

The reason I said you don't have 18k mdef, is because the mage in my guild that happened to be in the arena with us, has 14k, and it takes me a few minutes to beat him. It took me about 15-20 seconds to beat you. I only have 21k mdef, and am certain that I could in no way kill a priest of equal mdef, in fact the priest in my guilds secondary hoto group has about 16k, and can easily out heal my dps with regens and wave armor, perhaps you forgot to use magic barrier, I don't know, all I do know is that you didn't have near 18k when I 1v1'd you in the arena. And trust me, no one else attacked, because Chakra, the guild leader I was in arena with, wanted to see how I managed.

P.S. I spent some time in arena with justbeatit, his stats are nearly exact to my own, I couldn't break his wave armor, much like you couldn't break mine. A 1v1 with the two of us would result in a stalemate. How I killed you?

I really didn't mean any pun in my first post, just don't like seeing people misdirect other lowbies or inexperienced players on the forums.

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Well, "exaggerates" may be a slightly too polite way of putting it, but otherwise, rofl.

Still, I haven't been on since these guys got their Beisha's, but if they really are able to drop Nex in 2-3 seconds (don't know any other 19k Warriors running around) it's kinda hard to argue that things AREN'T kind of ** up.

Quoted from "crelliot;216799"

Still, I haven't been on since these guys got their Beisha's, but if they really are able to drop Nex in 2-3 seconds (don't know any other 19k Warriors running around) it's kinda hard to argue that things AREN'T kind of f'ed up.

I've not been on either. But, there is one thing we must all keep in mind: it quite likely takes Murky on the order of 8 or 9 seconds to count to 3.

I'm just saying...

rofl

Quoted from "Deltatester;200501"

A rogue don't even need to be well geared to beat a mage that is with three times better gear.

im sry what you obviously haven't done you mage right only r/p should have any mdef and i get aoe'd out of hide all the time then its just discharge/lightning->flame=dead

Quoted from "jpceragon;480882"

im sry what you obviously haven't done you mage right only r/p should have any mdef and i get aoe'd out of hide all the time then its just discharge/lightning->flame=dead

grats on an almost 2 year necro thread!