Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "trav42073;499831"

Well, i ended up on a pvp server because this is the first mmo game i ever tried. there was no explanation as to what pvp was when i chose a server. I ended up on pvp by total accident. It still hapens, i still meet brand new players who dont realize what they have gotten themselves into.

And i never made the assumption about what kind of people pvp. Nor do i have a problem with pvp in and of itself, its the people who are twinked out above and beyond what is needed for thier level who jump on the unsuspecting noob wich i was at one point in time and camp them until they drop something. and yes i am aware of the pk bubble system. but when a rogue in hide stalks u and just waits for the bubble to drop and then strikes there is no defense. it is total mugging. and being as how i was purely f2p for the first year i played, there was no getting costume gear.

maybe i hold a little anger over the many times i was just trying to turn in quests and got ganked of gear that i died multiple times questing to get. looking back the gear was total junk but as a new player, new to mmorpg, and unaware of what the hell pvp meant, i almost quit the game.

but i did adapt to the attitude on the server. i never forgot the names of the players who ganked me, took the drops, and ran. wouldnt even negotiate with me to get the items back. those are the people who ruined pvp. people like cheestik who just want to get lootz.

i enjoy pvp against someone equally geared. that is fun. and pk the occasional player who is just wandering around just for fun. but i am not the kind of person to pick up what they dropped. i dont care what it is. its not mine.

and whether the person paid rl money into the item or not, they invested something. thus it has value to them and to take it because ur gear is better or because u struck first is just, low.

anyways, point is, the people ur pking are real people, with feelings. seems the human race has totally lost all compassion.

You don't understand though, the people that chose to be on pvp need to understand the risks, if they don't like the risks then they switch to a pve server.

When you play paintball, do you call the people that shoot you and hit you bad people and then say that the people that they shoot are people too and have feelings? Yes you may of invested in a lot of paint balls and a really good paintball gun for a lot of money but you still need skill and you can't call the person that beat you a bad person because he beat you in a game fair and square and played it how it's supposed to be played.

The people that i described above in paintball need to switch to a game like laser-skirmish and the people like you need to switch to a pve server or stop complaining about losing your hard earned gear, calling people that play a game how it's meant to be played evil, and learn the way a pvp server works before you choose one.

Quoted from "Icedman;499791"

Whoa, people seem pretty angry at someone who simply wanted to PvP for fun. I don't get why killing someone else in game is automatically related to this "E-Peen". I used to run around on my PvP character yelling Toot- and PvP'ing whoever I saw because it was amusing, not because I cared anything about the drops I received or how much better I was than the other person. You'd be surprised how many times I was told excuses as to why I was able to kill a certain person even if I never initiated talking with them. Hell I even gave many of the players back their items. I only argued with people if they insulted me (which happened a lot mind you). There are many many people who get killed and immediately fall to the "you have no life" or "stole mommys CC" arguments which are 100% false.

Also the "Grimdal is dying" argument, that's been a broken record since chapter 1 so don't think any of your complaints haven't already been said. People have complained, and Frogster has continued to do nothing (other than the whites unable to drop patch which i'm neither for or against).

And the "spending all your RL money" argument, when you roll on a PvP server, you make the choice to be exposed to PvP. Because of this, you must understand that people exist in game who CHOOSE to PvP rather than PvE. It's annoying, sure, but a PvP server allows this choice and obviously some people have decided to be mostly PvP characters. The people who solely PvE will eventually spend an equal amount, if not more "RL money" in order to gear up their character for PvE. The PvP characters just put in money for a different purpose.

Quoted from "Zeylon;499845"

Ya Know Mouse,

I have just one thing to say to you and im sure everybody here will agree with me.
I play on a PvP server and a PvE server. I enjoy walking up behind somebody and seeing them hit the floor (and of course cuss me while they are dead) PVP is fun to alot of folks. So, if you want to say PVP is for noobs? Thats not right, in fact..a bit Nieve. If you dont like pvp..go to a pve server..thats why they are there and if you are already on a pve server, why are you downing an activity that chose not to be involved with?

My two cents

Well said you two, you actually know how pvp servers work unlike the victims of pk in this thread.

Quoted from "trav42073;499928"

yea, the paintball analogy doesnt work. if i get shot in paintball , my opponent doesnt get my paintball gun. all im saying is people who pk purely with the intent to get lootz ruined pvp/pk system.

They don't get your paintball gun but still, you paid $45+ (+extra for more paint balls) to just sit out for a game. If you still don't get it I can make another analogy about playing poker in a casino and playing friendly poker with chips of no value with friends but i don't think that should be necessary.

If people that got pked weren't meant to be looted, then why was the system like that in the first place? Because it was meant to be like that in the first place, it was only changed becaused the makers of this game are being selfish, and are willing to take some fun from some players to make money from others that buy rl money equips on pvp servers.

I think a system that would work is the better the item, the lower %chance of it dropping, and the rl money equips have really low %chances, that would save pvp servers and also keep the money in the makers pockets.

Quoted from "trav42073;500245"

just an addition, i would welcome a return to the old system only if u could seal ur wearables. not just the 8 we are limited to currently.

I think they should use this new system. Every item has a base drop chance (the rarer the lower) and your rep gives a bonus or punishment, for example white has +0%, red has +2% and blue has -2% but no rep should be immune to dropping and no rep should always have to drop items. Maybe + or -33.333 at most for reps. And they should make it that you can seal every item (that would make them more money anyway) and the seals should make the drop chance for the sealed item something really low like 0.1% and they should be unsealed if they somehow drop so the person stolen from has a chance to regain their precious item. Also, drop rate bonuses should be a new stat to scroll into equips. But drop rate equip bonuses should be worth a lot of diamonds and or in game coins to prevent everyone from being safe from dropping. And drop rate bonuses shouldn't be to extreme, they should be something like up to %3 MAX per equip.

And also, to make this new system more balanced to the weak, they should make it that the higher the level difference, the lower the drop chance to the lower leveled character but of course the same to the higher leveled person (to prevent epic equip low lvl stealing from poorly equipped high lvl people).
The lvl difference should be something like this:
0-4 level dif: +0% drop rate
5-8 level dif: -10% drop rate
9-14 level dif: -25% drop rate
15-24 level dif: -33.333% drop rate
25+ level dif: -50% drop rate

And one more thing to completely balance this out could be a slight drop rate bonus (like -3%) to weaker classes like priest and people get temporary (by temporary i mean something like 3 hours including logged off time) drop rate bonuses after continuous deaths from pk (and deaths from mobs should NOT count towards this to prevent abuse) like maybe:
2 deaths: -2.5%
3-4 deaths: -5%
5-7 deaths: -10%
8-11 deaths: -15%
12+ deaths: -20%
(and stacking with the level difference bonus, rep bonus, and equip bonus of course)

These drop rate bonuses seem like a lot for the continuous pk deaths but no one should die 12 times or more times within 3 hours anyway and it will definitely prevent spawn camping.

I think the makers of this game should really read this and use it, imo it could really save the open pvp in runes of magic and it would revive the pvp servers and revive open pvp and also prevent using open pvp to harrass other players and steal all their items. Someone show this to the makers, quick, and one more thing, of course the makers don't have to use this EXACT system, they can tweak all the variables to what they think is more suitable and balanced.