Runes of Magic US / AU

I am in a high level guild, I do not make it into siege much, when I do make it to siege I die. I am able to kill a handful now but as a Mage I am just a little squishy when I run around by myself. Rogues annoy me sometimes with their hide and my slow cast times bug me as well. I never accuse people of cheating but siege is still overall very fun and they have done a great job with it. I know there is a lot that can be improved but take it for what it is. Not that many people cheat or hack and if they do then just take a different path There are a lot of spells / buffs / potions so it would be tough to be able to tell what the other person is doing anyways. Maybe someday ill make a rogue and hide but until then I am happy with my Mage knocking down some tower and gate while getting stabbed in the back by some ghost

Quoted from "DWibbie;528444"

I am in a high level guild, I do not make it into siege much, when I do make it to siege I die. I am able to kill a handful now but as a Mage I am just a little squishy when I run around by myself. Rogues annoy me sometimes with their hide and my slow cast times bug me as well. I never accuse people of cheating but siege is still overall very fun and they have done a great job with it. I know there is a lot that can be improved but take it for what it is. Not that many people cheat or hack and if they do then just take a different path There are a lot of spells / buffs / potions so it would be tough to be able to tell what the other person is doing anyways. Maybe someday ill make a rogue and hide but until then I am happy with my Mage knocking down some tower and gate while getting stabbed in the back by some ghost

Another thing to keep in mind, 90% of the people who "hack" (exploit, actually) this game don't do it around other players. Only a select few morons will blatantly exploit in-front of honest players.

Quoted from "ear33402;527452"

So.

Tonight we faced a guild that was, admittedly, a little below us in rankings. We were having a lot of fun- disregarding people porting and lagging and things and generally just enjoying seige.

Until we were accused of hacking. Now, as this is serious, we asked the people who were staying dead spewing verbal abuse at us of how we were hacking (who knows? Someone might have been and if they were we wanted to correct it). To this we were told: "Youre killing me through fearless and youre going immune". This person refused to recognize that we also had fearless, he was fighting a priest with holy aura, cake, candy, etc and that he was also targeted by rogues and that same p/s. He died (as far as I saw) after his fearless went down. When we tried to show him how it could have happened, he continued to stay dead to call us [redacted], etc etc.

Now, I understand being upset if someone hacks. I do. But seriously? We were 2 k points above them, most of us have tosh gear and weapons, and we know how to pvp. The p/s in question got 230 kills or something dumb. But seriously, dont just stay dead and spew verbal abuse at us. We have gone up against people who we think are hacking or porting or what have you, but we have the curtesy for the most part to just yell in vent at them but dont just STAY DEAD in front of them spewing abuse. Seige is still in beta- it lags, it messes up. Can we all at least be adults?

It's no different than real life. If someone thinks they've been wronged, they're going to do something about it. And what gets done is under no one's control but theirs. You can't exactly expect to walk through life hoping that no one will ever curse at you, call you nasty names or in general try to make you feel like you are a lesser human being than they are. Human nature doesn't work like that.

Simply put, if you think someone's hacked, send the video of it to support. Same thing if they started breaking other terms of service. Siting there and trying to reason with people who don't want to be reasoned with is going to produce the same result as trying to get a diesel engine to run on gasoline. (It won't work.)

A few nights ago we faced a guild with 20k points more than us (yea, bad siege matchup). We expected to lose, but we did not expect them to use hacks and exploits to do it. They could have easily beat us, but to still rely on cheats to win... I have no respect for them as a guild... doubt they ever fought an honest battle.

Whatever, this is siege... should be used to seeing garbage. However, the thing that really ticked us off was after they got into our crystal room and set up their defenses, they did not cap our crystal. Instead, they brought a whole bunch of towers an put them in the room above... right below our spawn point. From that point on, they would just kill anyone who didn't stay dead, by either watching them get feared and run off the roof... or by mages thunderstorming the ceiling (they claimed it wasn't an exploit). They waited until there was 10 mins left in siege before they finally capped our crystal. By that time a lot of us had gotten tired of this and left siege to do other things.

Though technically not an exploit, what do you think of guilds who operate like this? It reminds me of the PvP griefers who camp spawn points (back before whites stopped dropping loot).

Quoted from "humilitea;527975"

So if this immuning hack exists....why the hell are we not just clearing tosh and gearing everyone with tosh weapons?

Because we're all noobs! All of us. ~Turtle

pretty sure if we had godmode, we wouldn't waste it on you. sorry.

+1. Cry all you want, my 200 kills in that siege were definitely Legit. We weren't hacking, we've never hacked, and we don't plan to ever hack. Just because someone beats you in siege doesn't automatically make them hackers.

I've been known to scream at my own guild for calling "Hacks" all the time even when it's not.

Also, just a little tidbit: P/R's have an elite that clears fearless. So if your fearless keeps going away.. that could be one contributing factor.

Also, I find it funny that you were "fraps'ing" us hacking while you were spewing insults at us the entire siege. That'll look good on your fraps video. We weren't hacking, but you were spewing insults.. who's going to get in trouble? Probably not us.

Please people.. learn what is and isn't hacks. Though honestly at this point siege war is more of "Honestly I don't know if they're hacking. This game is so glitch who knows. Whatever. Who cares. It's a game."

Thank you.

Ohh look, another thread about a guild being called hackers.

Haven't we gone past all this childish attention grabbing?

Quoted from "hilljack;527770"

But what should we expect from a bunch of arrogant elitist here. Just because your guild may have MORE people with endgame gear than they others does not mean you know more or are a better player than anyone else. That is all just in your minds. Get over yourselves.

Usually when a guild has better gear they tend to be better. But as Ear (I'm used to your ingame name lol) stated it was a good fight that they enjoyed.
(^ usually a good siege is when they work hard to win)

Quoted from "AngelIsrafel;528874"

Ohh look, another thread about a guild being called hackers.

Haven't we gone past all this childish attention grabbing?

I loove how you come in and say stuff like that

Quoted from "RoMunited;529276"

I loove how you come in and say stuff like that

Its how i see it. There have been countless threads regarding the subject. Does everyone really need their own thread to complain about the same stupid problems?

If you don't want to be called hackers, don't siege.
If being called a hacker, when clearly your not, ruffles your feathers that much, perhaps RoM isn't for you.

exploits are a terrible thing but everyone uses them in siege ie placing faces and such under a tower so they cant be hit unless an aoe is used.bad coding is the problem.

Quoted from "Purre;528776"

or by mages thunderstorming the ceiling (they claimed it wasn't an exploit).

Mages T-storming rez point is not an exploit, but is pretty rare, because not many mages know that you can do it. I've tried it in my own guild castle myself, and it actually works o.O

Its not really nice to camp at somebody's honor crystal and farm them, but its always fun to win, and I have to admit, everytime we go against a guild that we can rofl stomp, I always hope to take their honor crystal a little slower, because its just... fun. But dragging it on for really long is just sorta mean.

Quoted from "ruisen2000;529469"

Mages T-storming rez point is not an exploit, but is pretty rare, because not many mages know that you can do it. I've tried it in my own guild castle myself, and it actually works o.O

Its not really nice to camp at somebody's honor crystal and farm them, but its always fun to win, and I have to admit, everytime we go against a guild that we can rofl stomp, I always hope to take their honor crystal a little slower, because its just... fun. But dragging it on for really long is just sorta mean.

Thunderstorm hitting through walls and floors is clearly not an intended function of this game. Same with disarmament arrow and warden pets. You can do it, but it is by no means an intended function of the game, and it would require questionable ethical values to do so intentionally.

Ya so we faced a guild last night and had a fun siege on our part. After 10 minutes in, they were all calling us hackers and cheaters. I just don'T get it, they were asking me how come i didn't die blabla. Saw their mage, poped Serenstum, rogue in hide as soon as i could see him candy or holy shield and once herald was up Fearless. There were 7 of them at one point on me and they still couldn't kill me, K/S 244K HP 400K PDEF and 70K PATK good luck on killing me, especially if a healing class is near me. They were far away from OP toons and didn't stand a chance agains't us 7 and their 10.

Isaw 2 of their players porting away from me a couple of times and was sure it was lag related, nothing i could do about it so i just kept at it. Yes ROM should look into this, get better programming, connections or whatever but they won't do it. It would stop all the thread about people hacking in siege except for those who use Romeo still.


I had 92 kills as best killer on our team and their best had 34. I feel their pain on not being able to do anything. We faced Heretics one night and it was over within 10 minutes, we knew there was no way we could win, but it was fun as hell and i was able to have 8 kills and i was proud about that loll.


We do not or allow cheating, hacking in our guild, if people do we kick them that is it. BTW all our guildies have access to Serenstum, candy, hero pots etc. I craft everything for them for free to help them out and enjoy the game.

Thx

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;529495"

Thunderstorm hitting through walls and floors is clearly not an intended function of this game. Same with disarmament arrow and warden pets. You can do it, but it is by no means an intended function of the game, and it would require questionable ethical values to do so intentionally.

Well, they do give everyone an immune as soon as you spawn on the top of the castle until you either move or use skills/pots. Besides mages, nobody else can attack them on the castle ceiling.

I don't know which two guilds this is apart of, but if it's the one of I'm thinking of, then it was my guild and another. But I'm just going off of stuff I've read like the 2k points difference and the "tough" battle inside our castle, lol. I won't say the guild names but I can probably explain a bit to the guildy who seems to be rampaging here. I think I might know who he is, by the information he provided about his 'experience,' but I won't make any conclusive statements about who it is here.

The immunity is easily, and I mean very easy to explain. I'm actually a bit embarrassed that the guildy isn't being more reasonable or observant. I clearly saw at least one warden in the opposing guild. And he had that one pet that can give immunity to a party of members within range. I attacked a few of the opponents and kept seeing immuned hits. But then as you would've guessed, that specific pet was out. I even tried to kill it, but it was also immuned. Would be nice if the pet itself wouldn't go immune Also fearless was casted as often as it could've going by its cooldown. The opposing guild also had Herald in the first ten minutes or so too. And as stated earlier, there's also candy.

For the rogue attacking and hiding, it's also easily explainable. A rogue can enter battle for only 1 sec and leave combat the next and go back into hide mode. A rogue might not have even entered combat when one hitting enemies. Just like pve, from my experiences anyway, I sometimes one hit mobs and never entered combat, because the enemy died before combat was ever recognized. I haven't had this happen in siege yet though, because I can't one shot players, yet. But that's just my reasoning. But I doubt that ever happens in pvp since a rogue comes out of hide when using any attacking skill, which means they have entered combat. I've seen a lot of times, just one rogue eliminating a whole team of players just with that method of one hitting then hide.

Above post is right abt the warden pet, to be precise , it is the natural crystal that provides the immunity,when that skill is cast, all party members around the warden will be immune to any attack that is lower than10% of their total Hp..Which means rogue bleed etc will be useless.
so if that warden is a warden/warrior, and he is stated like a tank, he is virtually a walking defensive tower .

Quoted from "zidlef;529547"

Ya so we faced a guild last night and had a fun siege on our part. After 10 minutes in, they were all calling us hackers and cheaters. I just don'T get it, they were asking me how come i didn't die blabla. Saw their mage, poped Serenstum, rogue in hide as soon as i could see him candy or holy shield and once herald was up Fearless. There were 7 of them at one point on me and they still couldn't kill me, K/S 244K HP 400K PDEF and 70K PATK good luck on killing me, especially if a healing class is near me. They were far away from OP toons and didn't stand a chance agains't us 7 and their 10.

Isaw 2 of their players porting away from me a couple of times and was sure it was lag related, nothing i could do about it so i just kept at it. Yes ROM should look into this, get better programming, connections or whatever but they won't do it. It would stop all the thread about people hacking in siege except for those who use Romeo still.


I had 92 kills as best killer on our team and their best had 34. I feel their pain on not being able to do anything. We faced Heretics one night and it was over within 10 minutes, we knew there was no way we could win, but it was fun as hell and i was able to have 8 kills and i was proud about that loll.


We do not or allow cheating, hacking in our guild, if people do we kick them that is it. BTW all our guildies have access to Serenstum, candy, hero pots etc. I craft everything for them for free to help them out and enjoy the game.

Thx

Does make you feel better go against an UP guild, huh?

Quoted from "L3g3nd;535848"

Does make you feel better go against an UP guild, huh?

no, if you were there you would also know that we stopped buffing and using immunities so they had a chance.
unfortunatly they had a couple players that kept calling hax in say chat.i stayed dead for a few minutes to explain how we were doing what we did.it would appear that they are like minded with you,call hax when you dont understand what is going on.i am dissapointed in you .i would have thought that playing as long as you have that you would have a better understanding of siege mechanics.i have to admit i now know why you have the need to flame on peoples comments all the time.it must make you feel better about yourself or something.try to have fun its just a game,if you really must flame than go ahead flame on me . im sure i can handle it.one of the best sieges i can remember was against Prodigy.hard fought 1 tower win at the end.when we faced heretics we knew we were gonna get rofl stomped but it was also one of my favorite sieges because i knew them all it was fun for 10 mins.lol p.s. i killed Saddako once so i was happy.now Mr.Acet flame on

and by the way i have sieged against lower leved players by myself when they couldnt kill me i helped them learn about the flame towers and fot and such.knowledge is your best defence in siege and also your best offence.

Quoted from "timthum;535912"

no, if you were there you would also know that we stopped buffing and using immunities so they had a chance.
unfortunatly they had a couple players that kept calling hax in say chat.i stayed dead for a few minutes to explain how we were doing what we did.it would appear that they are like minded with you,call hax when you dont understand what is going on.i am dissapointed in you .i would have thought that playing as long as you have that you would have a better understanding of siege mechanics.i have to admit i now know why you have the need to flame on peoples comments all the time.it must make you feel better about yourself or something.try to have fun its just a game,if you really must flame than go ahead flame on me . im sure i can handle it.one of the best sieges i can remember was against Prodigy.hard fought 1 tower win at the end.when we faced heretics we knew we were gonna get rofl stomped but it was also one of my favorite sieges because i knew them all it was fun for 10 mins.lol p.s. i killed Saddako once so i was happy.now Mr.Acet flame on

and by the way i have sieged against lower leved players by myself when they couldnt kill me i helped them learn about the flame towers and fot and such.knowledge is your best defence in siege and also your best offence.

Acet can say that all he wants about going against UP guilds, but he is the same way. And then he brags about getting 300 kills. So he's a hypocrite anyway.

Makes me feel good when knights get kills, makes them so excited. xD

Quoted from "Borella;535914"

Acet can say that all he wants about going against UP guilds, but he is the same way. And then he brags about getting 300 kills. So he's a hypocrite anyway.

Makes me feel good when knights get kills, makes them so excited. xD

*victory dance* 338 kills actually Borella.

Dayum priest/scouts, takes an entire blind spot to kill them -.-