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Thursday, July 5th 2012, 7:32pm

Quoted from "Borella;543571"

No, no rogue is one shotting me with 300K+ Pdef. But oddly Chiron can still hit me for 200-300K. Same with another P/K in our guild that has more pdef than I do.

It seems that Chiron ignores player pdef, and that shoulnd't happen.


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Thursday, July 5th 2012, 7:32pm

Quoted from "mikkehboii;543572"

Stack Dex for moar Dodge.


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Thursday, July 5th 2012, 7:37pm

Quoted from "Borella;543573"

The megamouse Logic! I'll do that Bangs. :P


There we go.
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Thursday, July 5th 2012, 8:22pm

Quoted from "ruisen2000;543514"

Warrior/Knight can kill rogues. A rogue city guild filmed their siege against us, and their rogues just ran when they saw our W/K coming :D
Lowblow 10k > get hit back for 30k > repeat > rogue rez


Sorry, you are right. An appropriately statted w/k with a 2 hander and a p/k behind him/her will destroy physical dps in siege.

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Thursday, July 5th 2012, 11:49pm

Quoted from "Danjuro;543558"

Since when, I use EoP with Chiron all the time. It helps burn down bosses and those pesky rogues that I can't seem to hit otherwise.

Chiron isn't *that* op though. Yea sure his 2 second cast attacks will one shot you if you don't candy or holy aura, but so will a good mage or rogue. However his AI is retarded and I've had people evade him just by running over a lumpy hill. He's really squishy too, as are most npc's/mobs classified as rogues.


Yeah sorry, NOTHING can one shot me in pvp except a Chiron. And he can follow me into a castle, around a corner, and ignore most obstacles. If he gets killed you just respawn him and send him out again. I actually know guilds that put 3-4 healers on their wd/s and they just repeatedly buff up and spawn Chiron. You kill a player - he has to run back and rebuff and usually meet up with a group of his guildies to live. A wd/s with healers camping them is like an infinitely soul bonded Chiron.

He takes all the work out of pvp for you though I guess.

Edit: Realize sounds a little q.q-ey. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of ways to get around this(and not like there are tons of wardens out there) but Chiron does seem to ignore pdef, or possibly just the dmg reduction. I really only need candy or holy aura if there are multiple enemies picking at me. So it is kinda OP.

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Friday, July 6th 2012, 12:13am

Quoted from "humilitea;543630"

Yeah sorry, NOTHING can one shot me in pvp except a Chiron. And he can follow me into a castle, around a corner, and ignore most obstacles. If he gets killed you just respawn him and send him out again. I actually know guilds that put 3-4 healers on their wd/s and they just repeatedly buff up and spawn Chiron. You kill a player - he has to run back and rebuff and usually meet up with a group of his guildies to live. A wd/s with healers camping them is like an infinitely soul bonded Chiron.

He takes all the work out of pvp for you though I guess.

Edit: Realize sounds a little q.q-ey. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of ways to get around this(and not like there are tons of wardens out there) but Chiron does seem to ignore pdef, or possibly just the dmg reduction. I really only need candy or holy aura if there are multiple enemies picking at me. So it is kinda OP.


My personal opinion is that it is OP that a PET can oneshot someone with over 300K pdef. The Warden/Scout itself might not even be able to kill the person, but the pet can just oneshot them. All you have to do is summon the pet and have it oneshot everyone. Not to mention it can do it through walls, and gates, and every other obstacle.
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Friday, July 6th 2012, 12:57am

Quoted from "Borella;543635"

My personal opinion is that it is OP that a PET can oneshot someone with over 300K pdef. The Warden/Scout itself might not even be able to kill the person, but the pet can just oneshot them. All you have to do is summon the pet and have it oneshot everyone. Not to mention it can do it through walls, and gates, and every other obstacle.


On the other hand, the pet gets one shot by like anything.

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Friday, July 6th 2012, 1:40am

Quoted from "humilitea;543630"

but Chiron does seem to ignore pdef, or possibly just the dmg reduction.


I think that applies to the magic damage he takes as well though. My fireball hits him for the same 100k that I hit in gobs lol, and I'm only midgame statted :)
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Friday, July 6th 2012, 2:04am

Quoted from "ruisen2000;543650"

I think that applies to the magic damage he takes as well though. My fireball hits him for the same 100k that I hit in gobs lol, and I'm only midgame statted :)

What she means is that chiyron is broken the way scouts used to be. when they hit you, they just dont look at the pattack/pdef ratio. They hit you for like 300k. The pets destory high pdef statting p/k's and fully statted knights.

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Friday, July 6th 2012, 6:28am

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;543654"

What she means is that chiyron is broken the way scouts used to be. when they hit you, they just dont look at the pattack/pdef ratio. They hit you for like 300k. The pets destory high pdef statting p/k's and fully statted knights.


No, I'm suggesting either is possible. I couldn't tell you for sure which is true, being as I am not a warden/scout who has tested it.

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Sunday, July 8th 2012, 4:55pm

lol my story... any warriors except w/k.. life in siege.."hey group of people over there.. hey warrior... go in there and stun em... ok charge.. get one move off.. and..... dead. Next. Thats all they useful for :) hehe
then pray the group finishes them off and you might get a rez

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Sunday, July 8th 2012, 8:23pm

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;543654"

What she means is that chiyron is broken the way scouts used to be. when they hit you, they just dont look at the pattack/pdef ratio. They hit you for like 300k. The pets destory high pdef statting p/k's and fully statted knights.


Nah thats not the only thing, they ignore the pvp damage modifier (in terms of dishing out damage and taking hits), I've never seen my chiron hit for as high as me outside of siege, he's good but he's not that good.

I'm pretty sure they made him ignore Pdef on purpose though for use when you're fighting bosses which just carries over into siege.