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Friday, July 27th 2012, 5:10am

Jumping Walls

Since support will do nothing, and this will be probably become "redacted" as soon as someone sees it...

*Guild name redacted* were jumping our walls, and getting in our castle with all gates up. They claimed it wasn't an exploit because "your walls are so low, we can jump over them."

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Friday, July 27th 2012, 8:07am

You can pretty much discuss anything that is not an exploit. Any discussion of exploits is quickly locked and/or deleted.

So if this thread gets locked and/or deleted, then you have you answer.

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Friday, July 27th 2012, 8:08am

If you have the upgraded castle walls, you can, in fact, jump into the castle from behind.
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Friday, July 27th 2012, 8:20am

Quoted from "montanamick;560672"

You can pretty much discuss anything that is not an exploit. Any discussion of exploits is quickly locked and/or deleted.

So if this thread gets locked and/or deleted, then you have you answer.


Getting into a castle without breaking the gates is always deemed an exploit.

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Friday, July 27th 2012, 6:39pm

Quoted from "Purre;560655"

Since support will do nothing, and this will be probably become "redacted" as soon as someone sees it...

*Guild name redacted* were jumping our walls, and getting in our castle with all gates up. They claimed it wasn't an exploit because "your walls are so low, we can jump over them."


Wall-hopping in siege has been determined to be an exploit. If you have a video of an opponent hopping into your castle, regardless of your gates' conditions, submit it in a ticket to Support. Screenshots simply won't do as evidence in any complaint regarding siege issues. Both Frogster and Runewaker are aware of the problem.

Discussing the issue on the forums is counterproductive.
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Friday, July 27th 2012, 8:24pm

in that case using creative methods to jump on buildings during the winter/holiday event to find the elves ought to be shouldnt it? i never can jump on anything.
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Saturday, July 28th 2012, 2:11am

Quoted from "Borella;560673"

If you have the upgraded castle walls, you can, in fact, jump into the castle from behind.


This is correct. You don't even have to really do anything special. Two jumps, and you can be inside castle. Don't have to use potions, or anything.

Now non-upgraded walls, this is impossible. Thank RW for making the walls so low on the upgraded castle walls.

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Friday, August 10th 2012, 2:41pm

Quoted from "sleepypill;560976"

This is correct. You don't even have to really do anything special. Two jumps, and you can be inside castle. Don't have to use potions, or anything.

Now non-upgraded walls, this is impossible. Thank RW for making the walls so low on the upgraded castle walls.


Jumping castle walls has been around a long time, even without upgraded castles. Although I haven't seen it done as frequently as it was a year ago.
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Friday, August 10th 2012, 5:38pm

So as per Kalvan post, leave 2 players on back walls on fraps during all siege to catch them. They won't enjoy siege because we have to play cops to exploiters and cheaters. Put a ghost toon in guilds facing the said exploiting guilds and catch them yourselves. You get tickets about these people over and over, would be easy for you to take care of it. Take a week to do this and discourage people to use exploits and cheats guys.

Since also we never know that the said cheaters have any actions taken agains't them, hard to believe anything is being done ;-(

We faced a guild last night who was saying we were hacking, lol, they said they have fraps and enjoy your ban, lol. Just because we used fearless and the mages used their skills apparently they were hacking loll. I for one poor little knight/scout, took 6 of them out, they came back, i was 1/2 health and killed 4 more before dying, lol. i had 422K PDEF 222K HP and 73K PATK hahaha so ya i'm hard to kill and i will take you out before dying lol. But i get the frustration of people who can't kill a lonely knight mouhahaha.

Guys enjoy siege and don't exploit or cheat please.

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Friday, August 10th 2012, 6:12pm

Quoted from "zidlef;563972"

So as per Kalvan post, leave 2 players on back walls on fraps during all siege to catch them. They won't enjoy siege because we have to play cops to exploiters and cheaters.


That's what's so ridiculous about how siege issues are treated in RoM. It's irrational to expect people to watch their back walls every minute of every siege--and not only that, but to actually catch people the exact moment they use an exploit, too. They need to actually figure out a way to fix this crap instead of telling us we're SOL unless we're so obsessive that we're going to stare at a wall with a video recorder active for an hour a night.

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Monday, August 27th 2012, 5:07pm

Forget about it. It is useless to have fraps on in the hopes that you MIGHT catch someone, somewhere do something wrong. Even if you get the hacker and submit it then nothing happens. This has been going on for years where guilds and toons have been cheating and nothing is done. I can not remember anyone in recent memory being banned for hacking in siege. Useless waste of energy.

There is a reason why so many people hack and exploit in siege. They already know that nothing will happen to them. Support is not going to do anything.

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Monday, August 27th 2012, 9:56pm

Last night we fought a guild which in a previous siege jumped our walls, since then as many know now, we record every siege, many of which can be found on Kef's YouTube page. This guild last night 26 of them vs 19 of us, we destroyed them we destroyed their morale, the first 10 minutes I wouldn't let most of them leave their castle. Sure that player may have thought at the time it was a good idea to jump walls, but you tend to motivate a guild a bit more when you do it.

You know sometimes you siege with respect for a guild, you mentally tune it down a bit without knowing you're doing it. This was different, this was blood at all costs of all pots, I'm gonna spend 3 million in gold just to see you suffer. Hopefully kef will have it up for you all to see.

In summation don't jump the gates or walls, you are hurting your guild in the long run.

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Tuesday, August 28th 2012, 11:14am

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in that case using creative methods to jump on buildings during the winter/holiday event to find the elves ought to be shouldnt it? i never can jump on anything.


I don't see how you could get the jingle brothers event done if you didn't use creative jumping tactics, so clearly it was intended as such, imo.

However in siege the only legitimate way to enter someones castles is to somehow dismantle their gate, and run in. Shadowstepping to get around the gate has been deemed an exploit, so why should taking advantage of upgraded castle walls be any different?
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Tuesday, August 28th 2012, 6:02pm

Quoted from "Danjuro;566889"

I don't see how you could get the jingle brothers event done if you didn't use creative jumping tactics, so clearly it was intended as such, imo.

However in siege the only legitimate way to enter someones castles is to somehow dismantle their gate, and run in. Shadowstepping to get around the gate has been deemed an exploit, so why should taking advantage of upgraded castle walls be any different?


I did do all the jingle bros jumps "the right way" except the high house in the very middle of silverfall. This all took about three hours of frustration. I knew the path for the last on, but after 2 hours 14 min of ragging fails, I gave up.
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