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Friday, December 14th 2012, 5:27am

Sieging vs GMs

Everybody knows how powerful the GM food is and how scarce it is. Not everybody can afford to use it even in end-game instances. However, there is a guild which we have been fighting against more frequently recently and almost every single one of them can afford to use GM foods every single time they die in every siege they go...
That is about at least 100 Egg Rice Dumplings every night and who knows how many Hot Stews...

I just want to know if we are going to siege against a GM or not... There is no point in us going to siege to get beaten by a guild who has a GM on their side... It may not be a GM, it may be just the case that such food is more available in their server or they are spending millions of gold every siege... Then my question is why they have access to this kind of support from GMs more than we do?

Only thing I do in this game is siege and apparently even siege is not going to be fun any more...
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Friday, December 14th 2012, 5:34am

The thing is some players have literally thousands of egg and stew. They were bundled with runes in the IS many moons ago, also not bound so people spammed alts when gms were gifting them. It's probable they have 4-5 people with 1-2k items. This I think is why they stopped giving them out

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Friday, December 14th 2012, 5:40am

If they used to give out a lot and then stopped giving them, it is not fair to new players. How hard could it be to see that?

If they think they gave out too much, they should take them back, not stop giving them out..

Also, it is not 1-2 players using them every night. It is about the whole guild doing this.
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Friday, December 14th 2012, 6:40am

I'm guessing its Reni... since they had some GM visits.

But really though, nothing about siege is really "fair". Some people can use big angel sighs and phoenix every night, others cannot. Some can afford Grassland/Hero/unicorn, others cannot, and of course some are better geared than others. I'm not sure there's much RoM can do about it.
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Friday, December 14th 2012, 8:19am

Quoted from "magenificent;580893"

Everybody knows how powerful the GM food is and how scarce it is. Not everybody can afford to use it even in end-game instances. However, there is a guild which we have been fighting against more frequently recently and almost every single one of them can afford to use GM foods every single time they die in every siege they go...
That is about at least 100 Egg Rice Dumplings every night and who knows how many Hot Stews...

I just want to know if we are going to siege against a GM or not... There is no point in us going to siege to get beaten by a guild who has a GM on their side... It may not be a GM, it may be just the case that such food is more available in their server or they are spending millions of gold every siege... Then my question is why they have access to this kind of support from GMs more than we do?

Only thing I do in this game is siege and apparently even siege is not going to be fun any more...

I'm just gonna take a huuuuuuuge wild guess and say....you're talking about us, right?

Well, heres the deal. Heretic, right now, has the best collective group of geared people on Reni. Don't believe me? Come to Reni, check the patk listing. Don't argue "herp derp those could be buffed". We cover almost all of top 20 ranked. Most of us, myself included, are long time players. Some of us (myself discluded), are VERY rich, and can afford to pop egg rice whenever we want. Very few of us have stacks upon stacks of egg rice. I still got a couple stacks...

Up until reading your rant here I respected you guys. You were a fun fight. But I'm gonna be blunt and honest. I have stopped using egg rice against you guys. Why? We far outgear you. Its not the egg rice, its your own gear. Tonight, we had maybe 19 online, some in alts. 12 in KBN Hard for the first 20 minutes of siege. IIRC we had maybe 8 people (2 or 3 alts) tops for the first 20 minutes, and we held you guys pretty damn well. Actually, Sadakko and I pretty much duo'd your guild a couple times over. But, since you all had more people and our side was scarce, you got in and took all but 1 factory, which we had invis'd (you were actually pretty close to it at one point, and you turned around since you saw no proc - it was invis'd).

Thats really all we needed to win. Our guys in KBN HM came out and joined siege and we pretty much took full control, just like the past sieges over a span of a couple weeks. I nado'd your right gate and we got inside, capped all towers then fell back to mids to defend.

Don't blame the egg rice. I used 1 out of the entire siege. Didnt even use a big angel's sigh or a phoenix. Sorry, but we just outmatch you guys. The only real fight we have is PPK atm, and we need everyone online and onboard for a good show. I apologize for us getting matched with you guys, but the better geared guild won tonight, and every past couple nights.

And every one of our members using egg rice is a complete lie btw. Some of our dps, and a couple heals, when we have them, don't use them. But if we got 200k+ hp players (or 300k hp like myself), yeah, we'll pop egg rice. It makes the other buffs we use worth using.

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Friday, December 14th 2012, 8:39am

Quoted from "Ravesden;580909"

I'm just gonna take a huuuuuuuge wild guess and say....you're talking about us, right?

Well, heres the deal. Heretic, right now, has the best collective group of geared people on Reni. Don't believe me? Come to Reni, check the patk listing. Don't argue "herp derp those could be buffed". We cover almost all of top 20 ranked. Most of us, myself included, are long time players. Some of us (myself discluded), are VERY rich, and can afford to pop egg rice whenever we want. Very few of us have stacks upon stacks of egg rice. I still got a couple stacks...

Up until reading your rant here I respected you guys. You were a fun fight. But I'm gonna be blunt and honest. I have stopped using egg rice against you guys. Why? We far outgear you. Its not the egg rice, its your own gear. Tonight, we had maybe 19 online, some in alts. 12 in KBN Hard for the first 20 minutes of siege. IIRC we had maybe 8 people (2 or 3 alts) tops for the first 20 minutes, and we held you guys pretty damn well. Actually, Sadakko and I pretty much duo'd your guild a couple times over. But, since you all had more people and our side was scarce, you got in and took all but 1 factory, which we had invis'd (you were actually pretty close to it at one point, and you turned around since you saw no proc - it was invis'd).

Thats really all we needed to win. Our guys in KBN HM came out and joined siege and we pretty much took full control, just like the past sieges over a span of a couple weeks. I nado'd your right gate and we got inside, capped all towers then fell back to mids to defend.

Don't blame the egg rice. I used 1 out of the entire siege. Didnt even use a big angel's sigh or a phoenix. Sorry, but we just outmatch you guys. The only real fight we have is PPK atm, and we need everyone online and onboard for a good show. I apologize for us getting matched with you guys, but the better geared guild won tonight, and every past couple nights.

And every one of our members using egg rice is a complete lie btw. Some of our dps, and a couple heals, when we have them, don't use them. But if we got 200k+ hp players (or 300k hp like myself), yeah, we'll pop egg rice. It makes the other buffs we use worth using.


Your processing factory was invisible and I was aware of it. I went for forge instead for obvious reasons.

I don't remember whining about you guys out-gearing us. Read what I said before bragging about how rich you are.
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Friday, December 14th 2012, 8:40am

I had 1 dumpling, costed me 350k. Totally worth it seeing u whine here. <3
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Friday, December 14th 2012, 8:42am

Quoted from "magenificent;580912"

Your processing factory was invisible and I was aware of it. I went for forge instead for obvious reasons.

I don't remember whining about you guys out-gearing us. Read what I said before bragging about how rich you are.


Read what I said, I aint rich.

Its ok man, your points will keep dropping, you won't have to worry bout us soon.

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Friday, December 14th 2012, 8:55am

Quoted from "sadakko;580913"

I had 1 dumpling, costed me 350k. Totally worth it seeing u whine here. <3


I know you used more than that. Even I killed you more than once yet you kept coming back with the same buff.

Last I checked it was against the forum rules to call people "whiner" and if what I am doing is "whining" then there is a whole forum section for "whining".

Quoted from "Ravesden;580914"

Read what I said, I aint rich.

Its ok man, your points will keep dropping, you won't have to worry bout us soon.


You, as in plural. And I am not worried about having lower points in siege. We will still be fighting against each other because of the way matches are implemented.

How hard is it to understand what I am saying? I am not blaming you for using the GM food. I am not whining because we didn't win the siege or got out-geared. I am only wondering how members of some guilds can have hundreds of those foods when we have that much on our auction house in our server.
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Friday, December 14th 2012, 9:11am

Quoted from "magenificent;580915"

I know you used more than that. Even I killed you more than once yet you kept coming back with the same buff.

Last I checked it was against the forum rules to call people "whiner" and if what I am doing is "whining" then there is a whole forum section for "whining".
Actually, he didnt call you a whiner, he said his 1 dumpling was well spent to see you whine. Verb.
Now, if you really want to get into forum rules:

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[COLOR=white !important]If they used to give out a lot and then stopped giving them, it is not fair to new players. How hard could it be to see that?

If they think they gave out too much, they should take them back, not stop giving them out..[/COLOR]


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You, as in plural. And I am not worried about having lower points in siege. We will still be fighting against each other because of the way matches are implemented.

How hard is it to understand what I am saying? I am not blaming you for using the GM food. I am not whining because we didn't win the siege or got out-geared. I am only wondering how members of some guilds can have hundreds of those foods when we have that much on our auction house in our server.

We're end gamers. Some of us have stockpiles of mats, gear, food, etc. What you took as "bragging" is merely the truth. We have more resources/gear than you. This is why we win every siege.

No, we do not have a GM on our side. And if we did, I'm pretty damn sure they wouldnt be permitted to give egg rice away.

You have to understand, Chapter 1, 2, 3 was VERY prosperous for Reni. Some of the best geared/skilled players in all of US played on this server. Look up Madcat, Legless, Racerx, Mysticlight, Mandrakes, Tienkeem. You don't even know half the story of Reni

1 toon above that I named alone has 20k egg rice in storage. 20,000. Egg rice is only as scarce as people allow it to be.

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Friday, December 14th 2012, 9:32am

I used egg rice at the start cuz i respect your guild. But seeing this thread open made me changed my mind.
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Friday, December 14th 2012, 9:32am

Then again read my first post. If you don't have GM on your side why do you have an access to GM help but we don't?

One player has 20k egg rices and you think they paid 350k per? That is about 7 billion gold. Whoever has that much egg rice clearly didn't buy them. Somebody supports these players on one server and we don't get a similar support on our server.

In addition, it is also unfair income for certain people. If GMs don't give this food to everyone on the server, then it is scarce. Scarcity raises the prices on auction house and whoever has tons of them immediately becomes rich. So GMs has power to make rich whoever they want... But that is completely different problem than what I created this thread for.
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Friday, December 14th 2012, 9:36am

I see now that you're ignorant to anything I say.

That player I mentioned actually has over 20 billion gold to this date. He got it all from the anniversary packages during chapter 3.

We do not have a GM on our side, we just have more resources than you do.

I paid nothing for my egg rice. Most of it is from people quitting the game and mailing it over to me (they know I'm a siege junky).

Just because you don't have something, doesn't mean others won't. Thats life. Get used to it.

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Friday, December 14th 2012, 9:41am

Quoted from "Ravesden;580923"

I see now that you're ignorant to anything I say.

That player I mentioned actually has over 20 billion gold to this date. He got it all from the anniversary packages during chapter 3.

We do not have a GM on our side, we just have more resources than you do.

I paid nothing for my egg rice. Most of it is from people quitting the game and mailing it over to me (they know I'm a siege junky).

Just because you don't have something, doesn't mean others won't. Thats life. Get used to it.


We paid more money so we win... I see where this game is going with that...
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Friday, December 14th 2012, 9:41am

Quoted from "magenificent;580924"

We paid more money so we win... I see where this game is going with that...


You just realized this?

edit: and to clarify once again. No, no GMs in Heretic.

Tons of azns tho.

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Friday, December 14th 2012, 10:14am

Then no offence but this game will keep losing players and end up with a few elite players who will then have no fun because there is no one left to keep beating in a challenging fight. I was presuming they would prefer everybody to buy as much diamonds as they can afford to and keep having fun. Apparently GMs don't care if they are helping one side but ruining the fun for the other side. And to clarify once again I am not saying GMs are helping heretic but just the fact that whoever they give that food to, it is unfair to others that they didn't get anything.

If a player was able to buy them from item shop then why not give the same opportunity to others? Or one server has the egg rice dumplings for 350 k on auction house where I saw them go all the way up to a million per in my server...

It is not too hard to make 20 billion gold when you have access to something that you can put whatever price you want on.

It would be much better if we could buy them from NPCs paying a fixed price. But no, that would be fair...
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Friday, December 14th 2012, 10:25am

Quoted from "Ravesden;580925"

You just realized this?

edit: and to clarify once again. No, no GMs in Heretic.


You wouldn't know if there was anyways.

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Friday, December 14th 2012, 10:27am

Heres the answer to where all this egg rice came from:

Chapter 3, 3 year anniversary sale for RoM. They introduced tier 6 or tier 7 runes, dont remember. Inside those rune packages, also contained Egg Rice Dumplings. This was when Frogster America was in charge of sales. They had 500% more diamonds to go along with this sale. People bought TONS. Lots of egg rice. Thousands. Stacks upon stacks.

Of course, someone in FA declared 500% was a "mistake" and they took unspent diamonds away from people, lots quit, others canceled the payment on their credit cards - they got banned for it. Lost a lot of players. But the egg rice and runes stayed.

I'm guessing either your server didnt capitalize on that sale, or the people who did have them quit the game long ago. Or they're still around, but they don't sell them. I personally dont care. Egg rice is out there, more than a lot of us know. probably over 150k+ egg rice left on Reni would be my estimate. Sure, some came from GM handouts, but there hasn't been one in months. GM president spoke out in world shout and then got stampeded for egg rice couple weeks after Ch5 came out. But thats about it. No egg rice since the PvP tournament the GMs hosted for all servers at the beginning of the year. (I got 3rd place....!@#$ chiron.

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You wouldn't know if there was anyways.

True, but I'm almost 100% positive. We hate how this game is run too openly as a collective group.

Although I think Sadakko has the hawts for Nytefall.

Also, a large portion of Heretic are all real life friends. Most are family. Sadakko's got his bro, and his cousin? Who has their sister/brother/brother in law or something. Then theres Blunt (Parwtnulb)...idk where he fits in, just a friend or something. But yeah, most of Heretic know each other in real life. Hence why this guild stays solid even though other Reni guilds dissolve and rebuild. Idk. Azns, man.

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Friday, December 14th 2012, 10:45am

Quoted from "Ravesden;580930"

Heres the answer to where all this egg rice came from:

Chapter 3, 3 year anniversary sale for RoM.

2 year

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Friday, December 14th 2012, 10:46am

Quoted from "CharlieBananas;580931"

2 year


Yeah. I was actually on break from RoM during that time. Never got my lucky frog either :\

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