Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "camagic;582324"

Yes, it is using the siege lag and broken global cooldown. It does not only apply to rogues that (mis)use this. Ice bladers are also well known for using this.

Realistically, hide skills for the rogue like vanish and escape could be taken out of the game with near zero effect on pve. The last time a rogue really used those in pve was for ZS back in chapter 3. So clearly any rogues that get up in arms about those skills being changed, is just a pvper. It amazes me to no end how 1/24th of the game is a majority of what the changes and mechanics are based on.

Quoted from "Kefkai;582344"

You're talking about getting rid of the only root removal that a rogue has, escape has a place in both pvp and pve.

Vanish has an extremely long cooldown and is useful too, but the only thing it's useful for is removing yourself from combat when you're glitched into combat mode. Which happens way too often than it should both in and out of PvE.

Either way I don't get why you're mad over a 2 minute CD skill that is also a rogue's only defense against eyes, you'd be completely disabling rogues inside pvp if you took escape out.... invis pots on the other hand let rogues kill scouts, which is messed up. Though there are also some balance issues in general with scout skills like Charged Chop.

Quoted from "tyrr;582445"

Cowardliness is to sit on an invis tower and spam ice blades. Using hide is what assassins were meant to do.

Quoted from "Quaffy2;582455"

I think you misspelled "Playing smart." If I have the option betwen standing out in the open as an easy target or being in an invis tower, it would just be dumb not to be in the invis tower.

I also think you overestimate skill in pvp, it mainly comes down to how the team works together, gear, and not being stupid. Just because the rogue isn't dumb doesn't make what he does require skill.

Quoted from "tyrr;582462"

Oh, I hurt someone's feelings. I know, the invis tower was just standing there. No idea where it came from. Why not use it, right? And by teamwork I am sure you don't mean getting your lowbies bring an put invis towers everywhere.
Try playing knight, rogue, warrior, scout in siege and see how it is on the other side and whether you need skill and what not. Everyone can play a P/S in siege effectively. Heck, I have a 200k HP P/S too (who doesn't at this point?). Very few can play knight and be OP in siege.

Quoted from "tyrr;582462"

Oh, I hurt someone's feelings. I know, the invis tower was just standing there. No idea where it came from. Why not use it, right? And by teamwork I am sure you don't mean getting your lowbies bring an put invis towers everywhere.
Try playing knight, rogue, warrior, scout in siege and see how it is on the other side and whether you need skill and what not. Everyone can play a P/S in siege effectively. Heck, I have a 200k HP P/S too (who doesn't at this point?). Very few can play knight and be OP in siege.

Quoted from "tyrr;582445"

Cowardliness is to sit on an invis tower and spam ice blades. Using hide is what assassins were meant to do.

Quoted from "Borella;582467"

Where do you get the idea that Rogue is hard to play in siege? Hide -> sneak attack -> Lowblow -> hide is not that difficult.

Quoted from "Ravesden;582474"

Lol wut. Double standard.

Someones butthurt they don't got mdef

Quoted from "Quaffy2;582486"

This just in from tyrr: Anyone who uses siege defenses or buffs are now cowards. Also if you are a p/s, your opinion no longer matters.

We get it, you're a troll, now please stop.

Quoted from "tyrr;582487"

How were any of your replies relevant to the thread?
The question was can rogues use hide. My answer was yes. Accidentally, I hurt your feelings answering the original question.

Quoted from "Quaffy2;582489"

My reply was a direct response to something that you wrote in the thread, which I disagreed with because it was a silly statement to make.

Quoted from "Quaffy2;582489"

I then supported my statement with examples, you know like how normal people defend their opinions/arguments. I'm still unsure why you are trying so hard to impose "hurt feelings" on my behalf though...

If your guild's siege strat is to never place invis towers, flame towers, etc that's fine (doesn't make it the best strat and doesn't make people who place defenses "abusers"). Besides, a rogue using escape can bypass it anyway =)

Quoted from "tyrr;582481"

Original post called a rogue going against 2,3,4 players a coward.
Now all butthurt invis tower abusers want to pitch in.

Invis tower, phoenix, GM food, and soul bound from an alt people are even bigger cowards. Just saying.