Runes of Magic US / AU

Wardens have two main skills that still hit thru the castle walls: anti-magic arrow and power of the wood spirit. If hit by these, the warden pet will come attack the target. If you hit the pet, it will come attack you. If you hit the warden on the parapit with a melee attack(which you should not be able to), which will autofire briar repel, the pet will come attack you.

The wardens are not the only class that have skills that still bypass the walls, yes, I am talking about you mages that thunderstorm on target to bypass the walls.

Mages and wardens are not the only classes that have skills that still bypass the walls under normal gameplay. I experienced hits from knights, warriors, scouts, rogues, mages, priest, wardens thru the walls. I have yet to experience druids, champions, and warlocks, but am sure(at least with druids) it can be done.

If you dont like it, please submit tickets thru the support portal until they fix the effing walls and stop effing up pve with effing pvp "fixes" that really dont effing fix anything.

Edit: Also, just because you can, doesnt mean you should. Dont be a duchebag that uses these or similar tactics.

^ Totally missed the point of the thread...but to indulge you on one of your irrelevant points, everyone knows that Wl/R Shadowstab goes right through walls, and I have seen several guilds use this to their advantage.

As for the topic at hand, I know of one guild that is notorious (NOT the name of the guild, by the way -- completely different guild from Palenque) for glitching into the enemy castle and taking their crystal. Others from Palenque that I've seen have mostly been fair. I've seen questionable behavior from guilds on other servers, so it's a bit unfair to single Palenque out and say the majority of guilds there think cheating is fine.

Quoted from "RoMage;589763"

not all guilds, we did siege some very honorable guilds from Palenque in past.

One of what I consider the "most honorable" siege guilds is from Palenque. However, some of the consistent Elizabethan era siegers are also from Palenque.

Is it that they do not understand the Terms of Service, or that their Terms of Service is somehow different from ours? Doubtful, these forums appear more Spanish than English to some people, so I would imagine those behind the scenes are a little more adept at Spanish as is.

So I think they're just as familiar with the Terms of Service as anyone who takes the 45 seconds out of life to read them in English.

Different guilds have different morals due to all guilds consisting of people from different backgrounds/experiences/mind sets.

Unfair to generalize Palenque as a whole under that assumption. Ive personally never had problems with a Palenque guild, and even having an alt in one and experiencing their sieges firsthand, I can tell you 1 guild tries its best to avoid questionable acts in their sieges.

Guilds I have problems with have come from Artemis, Grimdal, and even Reni. No server is to blame, however. Just the individuals who act on the temptation to cheat anrd the guilds who choose to defend them, or claim a blanket denial that none of their members would do such an act.

There are some guilds on Palenque who will use any means possible including cheating, exploiting, etc... to win. One guild is so vile as to use vent to fool everyone into believing they dont cheat but will tell certain people ahead of time what to do and how to do it. Those of us who were unfortunate enough to join them know the truth and know them by name but alas no amount of reporting will do any good. ROM's response is and probably always will be SW is in beta and run by another company.

I have been in three guilds and finally went back to Noct for good. I will miss the dragoons a very good guild but I missed my friends in Noct and the guild itself.

Vesuvious
Card Collector/Quest lover/ Title searcher
S/R/Wd

I've met these sort of guilds from every server, and honestly, Palenque guilds don't seem to do it any more than guilds from other servers.

As an American player on palenque who knows very little Spanish, I find more people who speak English than Spanish. If I find anyone walking through walls in my guild, we kick them out. I would presume that we have the exact same gripes as you do about people exploiting and walking through walls. Since I have no idea what goes on in the half a dozen exclusively Spanish speaking guilds, I can not answer for them. :p

Quoted from "engelixe;589812"

As an American player on palenque who knows very little Spanish, I find more people who speak English than Spanish. If I find anyone walking through walls in my guild, we kick them out. I would presume that we have the exact same gripes as you do about people exploiting and walking through walls. Since I have no idea what goes on in the half a dozen exclusively Spanish speaking guilds, I can not answer for them. :p

this is prolly true for about 1/2 of palenque...at least i know it's true for me...but since being guild lead isn't my strong suit, i kinda just have to leave the guild if i don't like somebody >.>

Quoted from "Cike;589859"

this is prolly true for about 1/2 of palenque...at least i know it's true for me...but since being guild lead isn't my strong suit, i kinda just have to leave the guild if i don't like somebody >.>

There are players on all servers that practice what they call "smart playing" in siege. In my experience, it is usually only 1 to 3 players per a side, if any. There are guilds out there there that it is the entire guild, so dont get me wrong.

That it is usually just a few is why I recommend the war record addon. This addon has a function allowing personal note, ie so-and-so was observed moving ridiculously fast with no speed buffs showing, or whats-his-face was nothing more than a floating name while his teammates where displayed correctly.

In addition feel free to report the occurance with a screenshot or video clip showing the combat log, the ingame ping/fps(ctrl-x), a chatlog timestamp, and any other useful information. I know that nothing ever seems to happen from this, but if you dont try, it is guarenteed.

im a player and officer in a guild on Palenque server and i know of a person in a guild that has a program that can detect when other players use hacks and it will tell them what the hack is they have even encountered a person from reni server from a guild i will not name that has a interface hack program that can control the guards on the tower to take no damage and such the problem is that Gameforge is either willingly encouraging those who cheat or just don't wanna try to address the issue but the problem is GL's cant really tell who has done it or not unless they see it directly so the common practice with all guilds on all servers is to deny it even those who know it goes on but turn a blind eye.I give the game another year at most and people will quit playing cause no matter how much money you spend to be a better player and to gear properly it wont be enough for example witnessed a rouge with lvl 55 gear poorly statted and he one shotted a 145k knight with 250k def and the dagger he used was a dur craftsman +8 teir8 and claimed he was just a good pvp player and that he hadnt regeared in over 2 years now tell me thats just coinceindence i think not

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I'm from Palenque. Last night we had siege with another guild from you guessed it Palenque. Apparently it's okay for the guild we faced to have players show as friendly to us(so you couldn't attack) and only able to be killed by AoEs. They had chiron kill the throne in castle. the player stayed outside walls at back of castle and sent chiron in. i killed the chiron once and left. the reason i know how they did? i was getting a scroll at the time. One player when talked to from said guild who was using this hack honestly didn't care. Until someone said in a world channel 10mins before siege ended that a gm was on the server. then suddenly they could be targeted and killed by us. Hack? you bet. they still lost the siege even with them using players doing the (i'm showing friendly so you can't target me hack). Personally next time we face them they will be frapsed. they were told this would be the case too. Do i expect gameforge to do something about it? no . Reason just look at youtube the vidoes there of people hacking in siege. and note none of the people were banned

Anyway whisper in game for guild. Least you will be prepared if you get to face them.

Quoted from "atriedies;595684"

I'm from Palenque. Last night we had siege with another guild from you guessed it Palenque. Apparently it's okay for the guild we faced to have players show as friendly to us(so you couldn't attack) and only able to be killed by AoEs. They had chiron kill the throne in castle. the player stayed outside walls at back of castle and sent chiron in. i killed the chiron once and left. the reason i know how they did? i was getting a scroll at the time. One player when talked to from said guild who was using this hack honestly didn't care. Until someone said in a world channel 10mins before siege ended that a gm was on the server. then suddenly they could be targeted and killed by us. Hack? you bet. they still lost the siege even with them using players doing the (i'm showing friendly so you can't target me hack). Personally next time we face them they will be frapsed. they were told this would be the case too. Do i expect gameforge to do something about it? no . Reason just look at youtube the vidoes there of people hacking in siege. and note none of the people were banned

Anyway whisper in game for guild. Least you will be prepared if you get to face them.

showing friendly is not a hack.


its a bug. A very annoying bug but a bug in sw nonetheless, not a hacking program. You can't control it.

Can anyone confirm that if you see someone as green, relogging fixes the issue (NOT if you're green, the opponent is).

Our gates went green when we repaired it in a siege a while ago, and none of us can exit through the gate. Then Quaffy logged in and he can use the gate fine. When I crashed and came back in, the gate was no longer green, and I could use it as well. But my guildies (who had stayed in the siege) still could not use the gate.

Quoted from "ruisen2000;595696"

Can anyone confirm that if you see someone as green, relogging fixes the issue (NOT if you're green, the opponent is).

Our gates went green when we repaired it in a siege a while ago, and none of us can exit through the gate. Then Quaffy logged in and he can use the gate fine. When I crashed and came back in, the gate was no longer green, and I could use it as well. But my guildies (who had stayed in the siege) still could not use the gate.

Regarding green ("friendly") enemies: I think that it requires the "green" player to relog one or more times, and may require a complete exit from the client for this bug to go away. Convincing someone to relog/close the client, however, may be a tad bit difficult. If *you* are seen as "green", are informed of this by your opponent(s) and you have any sense of honor/ethics, relog.

Regarding green gates: On the plus side, relogging seems to fix the problem for the affected player. On the downside, if/when you relog, you will lose any merits, devices, and scrolls you have in your backpack. You will *also* lose any Library discounts and Forge/Lumber Yard buffs that have been generated. The same downsides apply if you relog to rid *yourself* of a "green" status.

See? Kermit was right!

Quoted from "Malignatus;595708"

Regarding green ("friendly") enemies: I think that it requires the "green" player to relog one or more times, and may require a complete exit from the client for this bug to go away. Convincing someone to relog/close the client, however, may be a tad bit difficult. If *you* are seen as "green", are informed of this by your opponent(s) and you have any sense of honor/ethics, relog.

Regarding green gates: On the plus side, relogging seems to fix the problem for the affected player. On the downside, if/when you relog, you will lose any merits, devices, and scrolls you have in your backpack. You will *also* lose any Library discounts and Forge/Lumber Yard buffs that have been generated. The same downsides apply if you relog to rid *yourself* of a "green" status.

See? Kermit was right!

perhaps a week ago, in our siege against Bteam, I turned green. Couldn't be attacked or anything. Relogging by completely closing client 4 plus times did nothing. Was a real shame, ended up farming merits all siege cause it'd be unfair to have an actual unkillable p/k on the front lines

was odd that reloading didnt fix it at all. Yet more idiotic bugs in siegewar... Guess its all we can expect from runewaker.

so at this point we can't call anyone a hacker if they are green. However, if they DON'T do what I did and stop fighting on the frontlines, then yes we have a morales and ethics factor coming into it, but that's a grey area. Having no morales or ethics isn't a bannable offense.