Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "Ravesden;595214"

I honestly wouldn't be too happy about it. From what I saw, although it was a clean, 21min siege tonight (a quick win for us, got a couple of KBNHM clears with the extra time), nothing really to be impressed about. I honestly don't believe your "strat" was as glorious as you make it to be. I know for a fact that Faction tries to prolong losses at all costs (which is we attacked you early full on), and Im not too impressed with a "we held 2 towers and then capped 2 at the very end of a losing siege." It is what it is though, you guys got your win...now gotta deal with a few losses on the way back down

D/wd and a priest on gate-->2 scroller+nado. gg.

Less than a year, maybe 6-8 months. We had a pretty good siege back when I was in Xareinguardians with PPK, and we ended up winning. They were missing heals or something I guess. Atleast that was kanuu's excuse

From what I understand Pino wasn't there vs Faction as well. I know, however, that it wont last half as long next time.

But I'm just a watching bystander

All this reads is that you are just admitting that your guild can only handle coordinating a few people and most likely in your runs 1-2 people are just bottomfeeding. So what does that mean, it means that you and your guild should never brag about any PVP conquest from this point on. In fact don't even pvp because if you aren't going to give a solid effort against a guild that might put up a fight, then why even siege in the first place.

You mean to tell me that 15 heretic can't fight 15 ppk straight up? What a bunch of babies YOU GUYS are for not even trying. LOL? Hypocrites? Where? Taking a tower at the last 30 seconds of siege, any amount of towers..is not the guild that is taking them's fault, it's the guild whom failed to properly defend the towers and not just cluster!!!! of junk in the radius of 1 tower.

If a guild managed to have a succesful strat vs a harder opponent and win, isn't that the same if not harder than figuring out how to place X dps in X event, move at X time, unlock/click X to function on X boss..oh and recruit X popular dps class. You have no ground to stand, comparing the 2 and using one as leverage is probably the stupidest comment I've seen on these forums in the last year.

Go cower in the sub 1k points if you want to quick siege someone get a win 100% of the time, if anyone doesn't like to lose it's Bteam and heretic seeing as their crews can't munster up the wabos to beat PPK.


Yet again pisspoor comments on an equally pisspoor forum.

Maybe the powers that be will set it up that for SW we can see

Faction v Heretic.

Since Faction has more SW points than Heretic. Now it makes sense why Ravesden is all whiny again and wanting to degrade that win by Faction over PPK.

wow you sure pay attention :p we did siege last night and lost. there was some interesting things that happened but i cant prove anything.. but we had a few strategic issues on our side as well not mention lack of a lot of key members. Either way we did not have our best siege ever and it would be nice to eventually siege again. however everyone has bad nights, now dont they? i consider last night not a disappointment because we lost but because we didnt do our best. however since heretic hasnt beaten ppk (one person =/= a whole guild) its just whiny sour grapes.

Quoted from "kakita01;595295"

Maybe the powers that be will set it up that for SW we can see

Faction v Heretic.

Since Faction has more SW points than Heretic. Now it makes sense why Ravesden is all whiny again and wanting to degrade that win by Faction over PPK.

Already happened. Last night. We won it in 21 min.

Quoted from "Stickingit;595279"

All this reads is that you are just admitting that your guild can only handle coordinating a few people and most likely in your runs 1-2 people are just bottomfeeding. So what does that mean, it means that you and your guild should never brag about any PVP conquest from this point on. In fact don't even pvp because if you aren't going to give a solid effort against a guild that might put up a fight, then why even siege in the first place.

You mean to tell me that 15 heretic can't fight 15 ppk straight up? What a bunch of babies YOU GUYS are for not even trying. LOL? Hypocrites? Where? Taking a tower at the last 30 seconds of siege, any amount of towers..is not the guild that is taking them's fault, it's the guild whom failed to properly defend the towers and not just cluster!!!! of junk in the radius of 1 tower.

If a guild managed to have a succesful strat vs a harder opponent and win, isn't that the same if not harder than figuring out how to place X dps in X event, move at X time, unlock/click X to function on X boss..oh and recruit X popular dps class. You have no ground to stand, comparing the 2 and using one as leverage is probably the stupidest comment I've seen on these forums in the last year.

Go cower in the sub 1k points if you want to quick siege someone get a win 100% of the time, if anyone doesn't like to lose it's Bteam and heretic seeing as their crews can't munster up the wabos to beat PPK.


Yet again pisspoor comments on an equally pisspoor forum.

You're right, we don't give PPK a fight although we can. We're one of the few that can, and it'd be fun on both sides.

I show up ready to fight almost every siege vs. PPK. If it were up to me, and the guild, as a whole, found it worthwhile, I'd do it everyday. You're directing your comments to one of the few who *do* show up to PPK sieges and *do* buff up to the max vs them. Can only do so much when only 4-5 of your members show/buff up. So your comments don't really hurt nor bother me, as there is some truth, but the insults you try to put in themselves I find quite funny

edit: and like I said, I have no personal qualms with faction. I know they fight legit, and don't hack/cheat/whatever. But I *do* call things as I see them, and personally, if their win was mine (Ive had my win, granted it was under a different guild tag, so this is someone who has been there/done that. Once. Like you.) I wouldn't find it as...great.

i would also like to mention that we -have not- claimed to be better than other guilds. silly attempts at degradation only makes the writer writing them look bad.

ravesden, our loss last night is no worse then your guilds loss against ppk. you don't have full amounts im those sieges so it excuses it? well we did not either against you guys last night. so if you want to be excused of your losses, it follows to extend the same courtesy.

edit: and why not find it great? like i said, it was a good night for us. why not be proud of our guildmates? many guilds dont even last the hour or even try. we stuck it out and did something few guilds have done. like i said we havent said we're better than anyone else but we can be proud that we coordinated and worked well together enough to have pulled it off. whether we had won or not just the fact we were able to coordinate as a team and did well is cause enough to be proud and pleased.

Quoted from "Jeania;595311"

ravesden, our loss last night is no worse then your guilds loss against ppk. you don't have full amounts im those sieges so it excuses it? well we did not either against you guys last night. so if you want to be excused of your losses, it follows to extend the same courtesy.

Nah, we lose because most of the guild doesn't bother. Not so much that we're missing people - its people don't want to try. Which I agree, and you're right, my statements may be hypocritical, given my guild doesn't show (not because theyre not there, they just dont feel like burning pots the full hour). We can fight em. Sadakko and I can clear a good amount of PPK players in 3-6 man skirmishes, but as a guild...they prefer kbnhm. And I'm a siege junky, so I always show. Buffed.

But a win like that...I just wouldn't go around waving it in people's faces. Its not the kind that would be glorious/memorable/what have you.

Who knows. I'm a friend of Kanuu, he also has an alt in Heretic, and maybe I'm biased. Like I said, nothing against your guild, and wasn't my intention to degrade/offend. Just commenting on that "win" like I see it.

So Faction is clearly proud of their dirty play just like wall jumpers/walkers are proud to destroy procs and thrones.

You guys are all the same. Your concept of glory is whatever that fits you.

lol id like to mention we didnt bring us into this thread, someone else did. we havent been 'waving it in peoples faces' we only have been defending ourselves as anyone would of. and a clean victory is a victory.. a win against ppk anyone has the right to be proud of it. specially being as strong as they are and the win streak they had possessed. but we are proud of our guildmates, not bragging about it. did we say we were better then them because of the win? no. like i said we didnt start the topic of that siege someone else did. :l

Quoted from "tyrr;595318"

So Faction is clearly proud of their dirty play just like wall jumpers/walkers are proud to destroy procs and thrones.

You guys are all the same. Your concept of glory is whatever that fits you.

Disagree with you there. Not necessarily dirty play. Nor is it anywhere in line with wall jumping/walking or any other cheat/exploit. They capped towers in the last few seconds with Fearless, nothing dirty about that.

Cheap? Sure, but only really when you're just losing, and stall long enough to do it. Dirty/cheating/hacking? Nah.

edit: I'm just a siege junky though, I'm one of those fanatics that expects/wants every win (from any siege, especially one against PPK) to be a fight for every inch of middle, one guild's wave of members pushing back the other's, and vice versa. I guess that's why, personally, I wasn't too impressed.

Quoted from "tyrr;595318"

So Faction is clearly proud of their dirty play just like wall jumpers/walkers are proud to destroy procs and thrones.

You guys are all the same. Your concept of glory is whatever that fits you.

lol suck it up tyrr.. we didnt do anything dirty. we held two towers which in and of itself a victory against such a tough guild. capping towers is not an exploit nor a hack but an accepted strategical siege maneuver. however saying that is similar to hacks and exploits like wall climbing and whatever else you listed (typing on mobile so yeah) is not only inaccurate and insulting it also shows you have no clue as to how sieges go and need to climb back in the rabbit hole you climbed out of

I really don't want to get in the middle of this, but I just wanted to say...I really don't get where all this hate is coming from . Faction doesn't cheat, we don't use dirty tactics, but we are extremely organized.

There are many, many things that could have gone differently with that siege against PPK, and to be perfectly honest, we were in shock for a few minutes after the fact, just because we hadn't even considered beating them. We'd aimed to hold two towers, which we did for a while in the second half of siege, but we had never aimed to beat them from the start. Pretty sure the best we were hoping for was a tie near the end. Does this mean we're better or even equal to PPK? Of course not. A lot of us are outmatched in terms of gear by quite a bit, but we were very coordinated throughout that siege. We saw an opportunity, and we attempted it. It just so happens that it worked. We were as astonished as anyone else.

We could have rolled over and let them end it quickly, but what's the fun in that? If there's even the slightest chance you can make little victories -- keeping them out of your castle, keeping a tower, even tying -- why just give them the win? I can't speak for anyone else, but I siege for fun, not for rewards. It is fun to me to have these little victories, even if we end up losing. Maybe it's not like that for everyone, but I wouldn't see a point in showing up to a siege where we were going to hand the opposing guild a win.

We're not cocky about it. We're not bragging or insulting PPK. We haven't even talked about it at all outside of guild chat since right after. It just happened. It is what it is. Yes, we're outmatched by them in gear, but Faction is the most coordinated guild I have ever seen in siege. Are we all KBN-HM geared? Nope. But sometimes we make up for that gear gap in strategy.

Quoted from "Jeania;595321"

lol suck it up tyrr.. we didnt do anything dirty. we held two towers which in and of itself a victory against such a tough guild. capping towers is not an exploit nor a hack but an accepted strategical siege maneuver. however saying that is similar to hacks and exploits like wall climbing and whatever else you listed (typing on mobile so yeah) is not only inaccurate and insulting it also shows you have no clue as to how sieges go and need to climb back in the rabbit hole you climbed out of

By "held" you mean Kanu ordered to fall back to hold the mid?
How can you hold when you barely lift?
Will see you in siege, don't worry.
Can you come to my rabbit hole? I need free merits.

Quoted from "tyrr;595324"

By "held" you mean Kanu ordered to fall back to hold the mid?
How can you hold when you barely lift?
Will see you in siege, don't worry.
Can you come to my rabbit hole? I need free merits.

"Bro, do u even lift?"

And with that, I bow out

lol and why would they pull back to the mid if we were so easy to roflstomp? lol and guess what; you'll beat the crap outta me personally cause frankly my gear sucks in comparison to many of you here. do i give a rats as to whether or not you approve of my abilities and gear in siege? lol not one bit. i have more of an interest in being the best i can be in rl for my kids. your opinion of my toon matters not to me. so bring it on..but if anyone else recognizes me from siege they will also tell you i fight the best i can and even if i get a lot of deaths i dont back down. but that reply still doesnt give what you said previous any more merit then what it originally had.

Quoted from "Ravesden;595308"

I show up ready to fight almost every siege vs. PPK. If it were up to me, and the guild, as a whole, found it worthwhile, I'd do it everyday. You're directing your comments to one of the few who *do* show up to PPK sieges and *do* buff up to the max vs them. Can only do so much when only 4-5 of your members show/buff up. So your comments don't really hurt nor bother me, as there is some truth, but the insults you try to put in themselves I find quite funny

So now it becomes poor Raves... Little fella stuck in a guild who doesnt want to play with him when it doesnt benefit them on a personal financial basis. There's playing rom... then there's rom playing you. lol

Maybe you wouldnt have to show the divides in your guild so publicly if your guild were not half scared of using all that so-called 'hawt' gear in an uphill battle to prove its worth.

But by all means, please continue Raves... Expose more of the divisive flaws in Heretic. Im sure the other guilds looking to leech members away are really appreciating the info on what type of cookies to offer your less satisfied members.

Quoted from "flyingltj;595330"

So now it becomes poor Raves... Little fella stuck in a guild who doesnt want to play with him when it doesnt benefit them on a personal financial basis. There's playing rom... then there's rom playing you. lol

Maybe you wouldnt have to show the divides in your guild so publicly if your guild were not half scared of using all that so-called 'hawt' gear in an uphill battle to prove its worth.

But by all means, please continue Raves... Expose more of the divisive flaws in Heretic. Im sure the other guilds looking to leech members away are really appreciating the info on what type of cookies to offer your less satisfied members.

Too bad no other guild on Reni can beat Heretic when it comes to pve... Even with the other two having twice our numbers..and 2-4 w/m each :/ we are a dead guild! QQ.

Quoted from "flyingltj;595330"

So now it becomes poor Raves... Little fella stuck in a guild who doesnt want to play with him when it doesnt benefit them on a personal financial basis. There's playing rom... then there's rom playing you. lol

Maybe you wouldnt have to show the divides in your guild so publicly if your guild were not half scared of using all that so-called 'hawt' gear in an uphill battle to prove its worth.

But by all means, please continue Raves... Expose more of the divisive flaws in Heretic. Im sure the other guilds looking to leech members away are really appreciating the info on what type of cookies to offer your less satisfied members.

Trolled - check
Butthurt - check

More enjoyment plz

Quoted from "Ravesden;595334"

Trolled - check
Butthurt - check

More enjoyment plz

I knew it would be a sweet sweet subject. GG.

Quoted from "Ravesden;595334"

More enjoyment plz

Try winning against PPK, I hear its a blast.

Oh wait, you cant