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Wednesday, March 27th 2013, 8:20pm

Clean Discussion Please

I am putting this here, verses the 'good siege' topic, so as to not derail that conversation. This is not a thread designed to complain or finger point towards any paticular guild, so please keep that in mind.

You can't blame (in all honesty) the players of the game for sometimes getting overheated or upset because when guilds do have undeniable proof of wall flying, or thrones being removed through walls, or warden pets being used to destroy (just some examples) in siege, their videos, and proofs do not make a difference. When people do violate the TOS of the game and are caught, it's just a joke. If they do get riprimanded they get a slap on the wrist, they make another toon and carry on until the ban is lifted. Many frustrations emerge from the lack of GM's in the game, and the loss of control or desire to control those who do various things to exploit the game. It becomes a wild jungle, and like such, people end up reacting with various forms of animal like behaviour.

Instead of creating new events, and new pizazz to make the game 'appear' to be this wonderful thing, a lot can be restored just by having people who not only listen, but address the issues as presented. I understand the CM's are limited in their ability to do anything other then turn over requests and complaints to the higher ups, so this is not design to disparage you all.

But please keep this in mind, when addressing comments that get out of hand and out of line. Frustrations that are not addressed become a fertile ground for havoc and chaos.

What we really want? US based support that truly addresses the concerns and issues of those who play the game.

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Wednesday, March 27th 2013, 9:12pm

From what I've seen, a lot of the problems stem from the fact that there are no clear sets of instructions on what is "allowed", and what is not. Obviously, a few things are clearly an exploit, such as walking through walls, etc. But there are many that have never been declared an exploit and are on shaky ground, like running off with the repair hammer, taking down throne without gates.

Because of this, every guild has their own set of rules that they play by, and that differs from everyone else. Some guilds see running off with gate repairs as an exploit, others see it as legit tactic. Some see taking throne out as legit, others do not. Some see using Chrion to burn procs as legit (and it has been declared legit), but many others do not (since taking out buildings before gates is an exploit, directly contradicting the previous rule about Chrion).

Without official word that states EXACTLY whatis an exploit, and what is not, leaving absolutely no grey areas, these arguements will always continue.
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Wednesday, March 27th 2013, 11:40pm

Sadly we will not get answers because they think if they give us a list of exploits that more people will use them.
I believe that they just dont care enough to try to keep up. Our population is at an all time low hence the lack of gms or cms in game. The 4th bday event and not one visit shows how little they care.its not like they couldnt have made an appearance for 15 minutes on each server to say hello and remind people that they can come into game.
i would have enjoyed just saying hello and welcome to reni to our new cm whatshisname.
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Thursday, March 28th 2013, 12:02am

woops

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Thursday, March 28th 2013, 12:12am

The irritating part is that there are plenty of games that will openly say "so-and-so is not allowed and you will be banned if caught." Yet Gameforge/Frogster have never been willing to make such a list. They're also not willing to persecute people for a lot of things that the game itself actually allows...even though abusing exploits like those would be bannable in other games. They seem to fall back on the excuse that siege is in beta way too much when it comes to these issues.

IMO, siege is such a huge part of the game, even on PvE servers, that they really should put more work into fixing it. PvE bugs are annoying and all, but endless exploits and cheats in siege are even more annoying, because there are so many exploits one could take advantage of, or accuse someone else of taking advantage of.

What makes it worse is that things that you see on your client aren't always exactly the same as what other people see on their clients. It's very strange, but it's just another example of how badly RW coded siege. If they actually fixed some of the more serious siege exploits (lag-glitching into castles, jumping the back walls, sending warden pets through walls, etc), there would be much less drama between guilds overall.

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Thursday, March 28th 2013, 2:11am

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ummm what? this is the wrong place to post this comment .
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Thursday, March 28th 2013, 2:31am

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ummm what? this is the wrong place to post this comment .

wooops :P putting it in the other thread

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Thursday, March 28th 2013, 3:15am

Quoted from "RoMunited;595643"

wooops :P putting it in the other thread



lmao dangit and here i was gonna start calling catorii names for the heck of it xD <3 <3


and yeah, i agree with you guys.. we need some actual guidelines and reinforcements made; for the upcoming future.. cause what has occurred up to this point is the past and we need to somehow start fresh.. not that it'll ever happen i don't think.. we're kinda the redheaded stepchildren over here in the US :(

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Thursday, March 28th 2013, 3:16am

Quoted from "Jeania;595647"

lmao dangit and here i was gonna start calling catorii names for the heck of it xD <3 <3


You do that enough anyway! You don't need a thread for it. D:

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Thursday, March 28th 2013, 3:34am

Quoted from "effervescent;595649"

You do that enough anyway! You don't need a thread for it. D:


awww xD but.. it sounded fun :O xD <3

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Thursday, March 28th 2013, 6:25am

lol Rune i knew that was the case
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Thursday, March 28th 2013, 9:43am

to conform with the topic. I took a shower. now can i discuss?

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Thursday, March 28th 2013, 3:18pm

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to conform with the topic. I took a shower. now can i discuss?


lol i'll have to reread the thread later to 'catch up' but that made me lol xD