Runes of Magic US / AU

I think the ch/m barrier skill is best left to being a self-buff. Or a party member only buff. Not like a give to everyone buff.

Gates just shouldn't be allowed to be buffed. Plain and simple. High Energy Barrier/that WL 100% damage absorb/Briar/Nourish all makes it ridiculous. Guilds that are SEVERELY outmatched and would usually be a 10 minute SW should NOT be able to hold a gate for an hour just because they have a bunch of level 50 alts. It's completely ridiculous and a waste of time.

It's the same as those crap guilds that put flame towers on the resurrection point for no other reason than to elongate an already futile siege. If you're resorting to spamming buffs/immunes/heals on a gate you aren't going to win anyway and there is zero point for either side to be elongating a mismatched, non-fun siege.

I agree that something must be done with High Energy Barrier

Regarding to m/wd, seriously? Why so much hate against mages? There are 3 somewhat viable secondaries for a dps mage and you want to kill their viability. QQ's about m/wd flamespam, that QQ thread about m/w Wisdom and Bravery, QQ's about m/s shot in EU side

lol no gear siege is the worst idea ever. You guys need to think about ideas before you ask for them to be implemented. No gear siege just makes the already OP classes even more OP. Not to mention people that have already spent money to make siege gear.. they wouldn't be very happy, for good reason.

If everyone is running around with 5k hp guess what is gonna happen. You are still going to get merked by rogues and flame spammed by m/wds and blown up by Ch/M and rooted by k/s.. Its all gonna be the same just with less hp. Gear is the only reason you can hold off some of the more OP combos. If you make siege gear you have an advantage. You put money into the game to make honor gear and give yourself more hp/crit resist. That's how this game works. You pay more, you get more benefits. It's always been that way and it always will be.

No gear siege is a bad idea. You guys will just QQ more than you already do now because there will be no way for you to combat OP combos anymore.

Quoted from "Borella"

Guilds that are SEVERELY outmatched and would usually be a 10 minute SW should NOT be able to hold a gate for an hour just because they have a bunch of level 50 alts. It's completely ridiculous and a waste of time.

You did sign up for siege with the expectation of being matched fairly and it lasting an hour. The matching is left to ROM, how guild choose to spend their hour is up to them. I have been both the guild stomping the guys stuck in the castle and the guy stuck in the castle. I disagree with you, you may think it is a waste of your time, but what about the other side that also signed up. They are entitled to do everything in their power to stay alive, and have fun.

Don't sign up or don't go to siege if you are easily frustrated after 10 minutes.

Can I put in my 2 cents here... first this is just a huge QQ festival with a few good ideas under all the complaining but what I really wanted to say is why not use the classes that can take off spells like P/R and their purge, if you time it right HEB will only be on the gate for 5 seconds at a time (assuming the other alts aren't moving around cuz their mains are fighting off the attackers like they "should" be). So why not get 30/30 p/r (look at that it doesn't even have to be 50/50) and get some invis towers and purge the hell out of the gate... oh wait that would be exploiting in your eyes so never mind. All I am trying to say is that if there is something good in the game there is always the skill(s) that can counter it... Yes I know my point isn't super valid but it is a point none the less.

i have seen enough flaming here.stay on topic without personal attacks.
you have been warned,

Can we calm down or this thread will be closed like mine was, as another posted, there are good ideas here. I don't think they should do anything to Robot Chicken personally. If one pulls me over the edge and kills me, well, i will LMAO as i fall and die and say good game and LOL. At least they learned to play their class. As those that use it to protect their gates, well i say : They learned to play their class and their usefullness.

To those who say it's not fai for them to waste your time because you can't enter their castle, all i have to say : suck it up buttercup. Siege is not only offense, it's defense for some guilds ;-). If you think it's not fair that people defend their castle, well that is what they did in the middle ages defend the castle no matter what. If you don't like it well don't sigh up for siege.

The only thing i hate in siege are people using Chiron through walls, make them get stuck in walls so they can't be attacked etc, that is just crappy.

Oh wow, that's such a genius idea................................

First off, Purge is a 20 second CD, so, when there's 4-5 alts, done. Your idea fails. And getting a 30\30 p\r across the field, that's laughable. You obviously haven't been in the game for while, to understand how that WILL NOT work. Anyone can kill a lvl30 anything. That's a joke. Purge isn't an exploit, its one of the few decent skills a p\r has, and you're just trying to flame at this point with your incessant "QQ'ing" complaing. Yes there are counters to a majority of skills, but p\r isn't viable in siege due to being super squish(clothie, no pdef buff).

1.) I have been in game 3 years
2.)Yes anyone can kill a lvl 30 that is why it makes siege interesting to find a way to get that 30/30 p/r across the field (I have gotten my lvl 23 alt across a few times so it isn't impossible)
3.) Yes your right Purge isn't an exploit... neither is HEB
4.) I must disagree that P/R is "squishie", they are one of the best healers in game with Nimble hands eliete which makes them heal so much faster (ya for a level 30 it isn't gonna work out so well but refer to #2
5.) I was not being incessant with "QQ'ing" as I only said it once and then said there were some good ideas in here

So please don't assume anything and find ways to counter it, it may not be practical but it sure as hell is fun.

P.S. I don't want this thread to get closed there are some good ideas here!
P.s.s. GRRRRRR my quoting never works!

Purge doesn't remove HEB.

no offense to anyone but if we are going to flame against a champ who pulls you to your death... can i flame about kanuu when he plays w/k and uses the skill terror and makes me run off the edge of a cliff to my death all by myself? by all means lets make this fair dontchano LOL.

hope you get my point without me saying it.

like zidlef said , atleast he learned how to play his class XD>

and taking away siege gear very bad idea like my old budd mongo stated XD. Wardens would almost dominate with all immunes no offense.

my two cents ftm

I still feel cheated from having bleeds removed from gates. If % based heals to even full out immunes work on gates then seriously put bleeds back on because it gets pretty dumb sometimes.
For everyone who think bleeds shouldn't be on, I agree and neither should buff/absorb/immune.

I'm Max btw and I still feel HEB on the gate is an exploit, especially with 3+ 10k hp lv50 alts. Needs to either be a selfbuff or based on casters HP. I also liked the party skill idea too.

To everyone on here:

There is a way around HEB when applied to the gates. You just have to find the right skill combos (because it takes two or three), but once you figure it out then it's no longer an issue. Take some time, read through the various skills and see if you can figure it out for yourself. After all, this is what siege is about; developing a strategy to take down your opponent or survive against them.

And if you're facing an opponent that has 4-5 champs on each gate and they're all alts, then you must be slaughtering them on the field because that's a lot of alts to have to monitor during the game. Just have fun killing the ones that come out of the castle and do some cool stuff you never get to do like:

Spell out your guild name in FOTs, elects, and flames outside of their castle (take a screenshot too!)
line the entire outside of their castle with FOTs.
Put honor guard on one of their home towers after you take it
completely swamp the field with invis towers so that everyone is invisible from gate to gate

Tbh if you want to take a gate that badly bring 15-20 towers put them lining the walls and the people inside will just get feared to death and won't actuay be able to heal the gate. Only issue is mages destroying them all with thunderstorm or a full geared ch/m with rampage (which needs a nerf btw) xD

Reading this thread or any other similar thread, almost every class needs to get some sort of nerf cause of SW, just lolz.

Priest/Rogue Elite skill **Purge** - Removes all beneficial effects on target. (20 sec cd) , would that not be a solution to yer problem when people use that champion/mage skill on the gate? .. no nerf needed then

Purge only removes briar. Though tbh whenever I've found buff alts on a gate. Hitting 2 at once generally works. Use like 3-4 aoes on one side so they focus there whilst using tornado and another 5 on the complete opposite side gate.

To be more specific, c/m High Energy Barrier is not classified as any effect. So purge will not remove it. Even if it were simply changed to being a beneficial effect, the cooldown on high energy barrier is shorter than that of purge, so unless you have 2 p/r you'll still encounter difficulties breaking in. It also won't help if they have multiple c/m's on one gate either.

Hitting multiple gates at once is the best way, but ofc even that fails when the enemy has 3+ c/m's , one at each gate, who are ready to defend. The second best method is to buy a minimum of 8 scrolls, 10+ being optimum, and hit the gates with all 10 scrolls at once while High energy barrier is off -- tornado can be used to remove it then scroll when it is down to insta-kill the gate. This method obviously uses more crystal/merits so unless you're dominating sw, chances are you won't want to invest in it.