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Sunday, January 13th 2013, 1:17pm

FPS about addons

Every things from here:
https://forum.runesofmagic.com/showthrea…l=1#post4284082
http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthr…ll=1#post583357

Quoted from "Noguai;583357"

That's interesting. I will look into that issue.
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[COLOR=white !important]Dalanis
- without Addons = 35 - 42
- with XBar = 25 - 30
- with ZZIB = 32 - 36
- with 80 Addons + XBar = 17 - 23
- with 80 Addons + ZZIB = 25 - 29

Logar
- without Addons = 45 - 50
- with XBar = 39 - 42
- with ZZIB = 45 - 50
- with 80 Addons + XBar = 28 - 30
- with 80 Addons + ZZIB = 35 - 40 [/COLOR]

With smashing the left mouse button on the menu icon and thus causing a animation constantly being played as well as constantly new animations being created to overwrite the old ones, I can cause an additional FPS loss of at maximum another 2 FPS. For comparison: Showing the standard game configuration window causes a FPS loss of 5-7 FPS on my system I'm currently writing this message on. So the impact of ZZInfoBar should normally be unnoticable.

Also measuring FPS in a MMO for comparison is a bit tricky. On the one side you may want some stuff happen but on the other one you need it happen always exact the same way so that it remains repeatable, which is of course not possible. Thus measurement uncertainty is too high to measure small fps differences.



There's someone like to spread unreal opinion.
Because of this nice addon author's post, I need to clarify FPS in XBar.
So I post the videos here, you can see FPS in the two addon clearly.

[video=youtube_share;pFygftWoS-0]http://youtu.be/pFygftWoS-0[/video]

And this is FPS in ZZInfoBar:
http://youtu.be/T--LuUO9VRo

I think you can say how good about of your addon, but you should not to say other is worse, even it is truth.

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Sunday, January 13th 2013, 4:14pm

I couldn't see anything. Video is fuzzy and unclear. Can't tell anything about FPS or what ever you are trying to prove or disprove.

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Sunday, January 13th 2013, 6:09pm

Quoted from "Gilderoi;584401"

I couldn't see anything. Video is fuzzy and unclear. Can't tell anything about FPS or what ever you are trying to prove or disprove.

Not actually, you can see the FPS in XBar is 7X, and ZZInfoBar is 6X, that's enough.
It is better than only text description like he post.
And the truth is what he said is untruth.

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Sunday, January 13th 2013, 8:27pm

What I've already said on the german forums:

I won't climb on the bandwagon "I have this and that FPS loss, so this and that is better". I noticed one thing I have already mentioned in discussions about generale interface performance on the german forums. But this is getting on my nerves instead of being helpful in any way.

The [here it is the second one] linked post refers to a bug report in which somebody told of some kind of lag without any helpful information and who has not responded to my reply. To prevent "the evil evil Noguai cheats on his meassurements" I have shown measurements from a PN instead of my own. The most important thing I want to express is: "It's hard to fix lags I don't face" I do not want to unmask the author of the PM without his approval without any reason to prevent him from being forced into any unnecessary discussion. He may express himself on his own.

Quoted from "matif"

All things I post is truth, and what he said is untruth.
What is your positive reason here?
Who are the 2 people blame and said other is worse?
Please said exact things.
(Oh, remember teacher said you can't blame others even if you have exact things).
;)
Source of quote: https://forum.runesofmagic.com/showthrea…064#post4501064

Calm down and read again what I've written, before you start getting personal by calling me a liar, which is by the way against the forums rules if you are interested in future participation on the forums.

The first quote is completely taken out of context, because the whole stuff that happened around this has been deleted for a very good reason. I think you'll know exactly what happened there and why it did. No more comments on that.
The same thing is with the quote you did in a similar thread to this in the US forums. It's taken out of context., the quote with the data looks like it has been recorded by me and the stuff around misleads people into a situation that did not exist at any time while suggesting the presence of a liar.

Regarding the second link (which is the vague quote in the US forums): As I've said you should read again what I've written previously. But to explain a important part again: I have clearly stated that this data is old, that it is not mine and I just took the data as it was given to me. I don't and won't touch the numbers or the information of it. I won't remove parts of it and at most I might translate it to the particular language that is spoken at the place to keep it readable but have it as close as possible to a quote. What XBar was doing there was of no interest at that moment.

You'd better stop that topic.

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Monday, January 14th 2013, 7:16am

What ever, XBar have good UI, good user experience, creative, fast, less bug.

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Monday, January 14th 2013, 8:44am

Quoted from "iukwc666;584438"

What ever, XBar have good UI, good user experience, creative, fast, less bug.

Do whatever you want, but your attitude towards software and it's developers feels kinda questionable to me. I don't tell you what I think about general bug complaints without feedbach, but because it feels so well I've got a little quote for you and everyone else:

Quoted from "bouncepotato"

ich versteh sowieso nicht so ganz den sinn von diesem thread. ist es nicht völlig egal, ob nun einzelne leute durch irgendwelche addons ein paar fps mehr oder halt auch weniger haben als mit anderen?
wenn mir ein addon interessant erscheint, dann installier ich's mir und teste das aus. wenns mir dann im nachhinein persönlich doch nicht gefällt (evtl auch, weil die fps bei mir damit schlechter werden), dann nehm ichs halt wieder runter und such mir ne alternative (auch wenn die probleme bei anderen evlt nicht auftreten).

die ganzen addons sind doch freiwillig programmiert und werden gratis zur verfügung gestellt. da leg ich mich doch nicht wegen son paar lächerlichen fps mit dem entwickler an...

Source: https://forum.runesofmagic.com/showthrea…481#post4501481
Translation:

Quoted from "bouncepotato"

I don't understand the sense of this thread. Isn't it completely unimportant whether single people have some FPS more or less through any addon than they have with others?
When I'm interested in an addon, I will install it and test it. When it afterall isn't that nice as I personally thought it would be (eventually also because the FPS are worse with it), I just remove it and search for alternatives (even if others don't face such problems).

Aren't all these addons programmed voluntary and are provided for free? So I don't start arguing with the developer because of some ridiculous FPS...

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Monday, January 14th 2013, 12:29pm

Quoted from "Noguai;584411"

What I've already said on the german forums:
...
Source of quote: https://forum.runesofmagic.com/showthrea…064#post4501064
...


Please read all posts.

Quoted from "Xzandro;4500878"

God... kind of childish...

Quoted from "matif;4500980"

https://forum.runesofmagic.com/showthrea…l=1#post3936067
https://forum.runesofmagic.com/showthrea…l=1#post3551299
I didn't say anything blame, but your reply is not the first time to blame me.
I know I'm older.
And all of things I post is truth.
The most important, I just did same thing like him.
Because I want to clarify about his rumor.

Quoted from "Xzandro;4501034"

Feel free to think about the reason. ;)

I said Xzandro blame me, and Nogui is the one who told everyone XBar is worse.
I didn't say Nogui lie.

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Monday, January 14th 2013, 12:30pm

Quoted from "Noguai;584411"

What I've already said on the german forums:

I won't climb on the bandwagon "I have this and that FPS loss, so this and that is better". I noticed one thing I have already mentioned in discussions about generale interface performance on the german forums. But this is getting on my nerves instead of being helpful in any way.

The [here it is the second one] linked post refers to a bug report in which somebody told of some kind of lag without any helpful information and who has not responded to my reply. To prevent "the evil evil Noguai cheats on his meassurements" I have shown measurements from a PN instead of my own. The most important thing I want to express is: "It's hard to fix lags I don't face" I do not want to unmask the author of the PM without his approval without any reason to prevent him from being forced into any unnecessary discussion. He may express himself on his own.

Source of quote: https://forum.runesofmagic.com/showthrea…064#post4501064

Calm down and read again what I've written, before you start getting personal by calling me a liar, which is by the way against the forums rules if you are interested in future participation on the forums.

The first quote is completely taken out of context, because the whole stuff that happened around this has been deleted for a very good reason. I think you'll know exactly what happened there and why it did. No more comments on that.
The same thing is with the quote you did in a similar thread to this in the US forums. It's taken out of context., the quote with the data looks like it has been recorded by me and the stuff around misleads people into a situation that did not exist at any time while suggesting the presence of a liar.

Regarding the second link (which is the vague quote in the US forums): As I've said you should read again what I've written previously. But to explain a important part again: I have clearly stated that this data is old, that it is not mine and I just took the data as it was given to me. I don't and won't touch the numbers or the information of it. I won't remove parts of it and at most I might translate it to the particular language that is spoken at the place to keep it readable but have it as close as possible to a quote. What XBar was doing there was of no interest at that moment.

You'd better stop that topic.


Quoted from "Noguai;4501187"

Calm down and read again what I've written, before you start getting personal by calling me a liar, which is by the way against the forums rules if you are interested in future participation on the forums.

The first quote is completely taken out of context, because the whole stuff that happened around this has been deleted for a very good reason. I think you'll know exactly what happened there and why it did. No more comments on that.
The same thing is with the quote you did in a similar thread to this in the US forums. It's taken out of context., the quote with the data looks like it has been recorded by me and the stuff around misleads people into a situation that did not exist at any time while suggesting the presence of a liar.

Regarding the second link (which is the vague quote in the US forums): As I've said you should read again what I've written previously. But to explain a important part again: I have clearly stated that this data is old, that it is not mine and I just took the data as it was given to me. I don't and won't touch the numbers or the information of it. I won't remove parts of it and at most I might translate it to the particular language that is spoken at the place to keep it readable but have it as close as possible to a quote. What XBar was doing there was of no interest at that moment.

You'd better stop that topic.

The things you said is what I want to tell you.
You must know what you did will cause other to do.
If you didn't say anythings, I don't need to clarify untruth opinion.
Untruth = not really ~= lie
I just did same things but to clarify.
And what you did is really against the forums rules, said other is worse.

You know the reason for deleted in first quote.
So you would know who start a provocative comment to argue I just used "a same string". (Your addon have more same string.)
You can say your addon is fast without show off FPS in XBar.
Every times you have many strange reasons to explain what you did.
But you always avoid topic.
You said FPS in XBar is lower is truth.
You constantly said XBar is worse is also truth.
XBar is not slow as you said is truth.

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Monday, January 14th 2013, 7:55pm

Before this gets any more heated or contentious...

OP, if you wish to continue this discussion with the addon author, send him a PM (private message).

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