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Wednesday, May 1st 2013, 7:22am

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Not sure if I'm reading this right but...

you know max number of accounts under TOS for any individual person is 5 (five), yes?


not anymore , remember the update to GF TOS from the old Frogster ones a while ago. (which was kinda BS anyway since EU TOS did not have anything like that lol but who am i to care - funny enough US_ES text file for TOS did not have that line :D

Since then its like: TOS: 1 Account/person/online game (global GF standard text module for all their games it seems) , unless game rules specify otherwise. Game rules ROM state: multiple accounts are allowed. (And i asked Laghmara back then if its for GF ROM globally or just EU and the answer was globally. pretty sure i can find the thread if need be, german though)

Cant tell if they actually cared enough to update the text that appears on login into game ...

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Wednesday, May 1st 2013, 12:11pm

rofl raves ALWAYS first person to jump on someone he thinks MIGHT be doin something against the rules rofl <3
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Wednesday, May 1st 2013, 1:57pm

Idk if this was covered, but it seems to reset at midnight pst?
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Wednesday, May 1st 2013, 3:09pm

"per day" usually means per calendar day not per 24h. should be fine imo

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Wednesday, May 1st 2013, 3:13pm

Quoted from "camagic;599761"

Idk if this was covered, but it seems to reset at midnight pst?


Sounds about right.. That's when Cedric reset, as well as the NPCs that gave out the 99 golden eggs, 444 guild runes & 44 rubies during the 4th Birthday event.

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Wednesday, May 1st 2013, 3:17pm

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Not sure if I'm reading this right but...

you know max number of accounts under TOS for any individual person is 5 (five), yes?


One of the things changed while you had your puter/fan problems or were playing 'that other' game(z).

Not sure how you missed big thingz like this...

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Wednesday, May 1st 2013, 5:04pm

Still....running 9 toons through minigames is a load of work...not sure I can keep it up.
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Wednesday, May 1st 2013, 5:32pm

Are there any crap proof stats? Or are all stats decent except Wis/matk? (does that drop off mage gear too? or just healer gear?)
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Wednesday, May 1st 2013, 6:09pm

Thankee fer a great event, Gameforge. Tis well done, a challenge fer all.

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Wednesday, May 1st 2013, 6:39pm

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Are there any crap proof stats? Or are all stats decent except Wis/matk? (does that drop off mage gear too? or just healer gear?)


Proof stats, for the most part are "good" stats; including Wis/Matt which drops primarily from mage gear. Much better ratio than what you get from shell stats. Who pulls Proof Healer gear?
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Wednesday, May 1st 2013, 6:40pm

aye I have to agree, props for a decent event :)

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Wednesday, May 1st 2013, 8:09pm

Quoted from "Auros;599784"

Proof stats, for the most part are "good" stats; including Wis/Matt which drops primarily from mage gear. Much better ratio than what you get from shell stats. Who pulls Proof Healer gear?


Healers?

only bad proof stats are wis/Matt and sta/dex, though sta/Matt isn't all that good either.
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Wednesday, May 1st 2013, 11:10pm

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Wednesday, May 1st 2013, 11:40pm

Quoted from "YomanROM;599753"

not anymore , remember the update to GF TOS from the old Frogster ones a while ago. (which was kinda BS anyway since EU TOS did not have anything like that lol but who am i to care - funny enough US_ES text file for TOS did not have that line :D

Since then its like: TOS: 1 Account/person/online game (global GF standard text module for all their games it seems) , unless game rules specify otherwise. Game rules ROM state: multiple accounts are allowed. (And i asked Laghmara back then if its for GF ROM globally or just EU and the answer was globally. pretty sure i can find the thread if need be, german though)

Cant tell if they actually cared enough to update the text that appears on login into game ...

//cpt. smartass going to sleep now :D and kick fanny around a bit for me will you :p


The five account limit is in effect with GAI(I leave it up to you on how to pronounce that) and can be found here: http://agbserver.gameforge.com/enUS-Term…s-of-Magic.html
paragraph 2 C.

The gobbly goop at the loading of client Still references FAI, which really isnt a viable "entity" anymore.
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Thursday, May 2nd 2013, 12:09am

Quoted from "camagic;599799"

The five account limit is in effect with GAI(I leave it up to you on how to pronounce that) and can be found here: http://agbserver.gameforge.com/enUS-Term…s-of-Magic.html
paragraph 2 C.

The gobbly goop at the loading of client Still references FAI, which really isnt a viable "entity" anymore.


Boom.
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Thursday, May 2nd 2013, 2:29am

sigh, did they not align it correctly or change something again? well not my problem tbh, but just for the sake of the argument:

https://forum.runesofmagic.com/showthrea…l=1#post4408777 post 102, 105, 106

the first link from Laghmara in p102 is the german version of this one in english here: http://agbserver.gameforge.com/enGB-Comm…s-of-Magic.html (linked on the bottom of the US page too, as enGB-guidelines )

"All players are permitted to play the online game Runes of Magic with multiple accounts."


in p105 i asked specifically if that's in effect for US too , and in 106 the answer should be pretty clear even if you dont understand german. in short: the community guidelines and the terms of use are the same for all Gameforge regions.

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We had pretty heavy discussions about the topic in the german forums because the general terms of use state that multi accounts are not allowed at all - but thats a GF text module for all their games we were told. So they came up with the Community Guidelines /"Rules of Behaviour" (if i translate it 1:1 :D) and stated there specifically for ROM that multiple accounts are indeed allowed. And Laghmara confirmed that it is supposed to be the same in all Gameforge regions of ROM.


PS: 'is not to bash Raves (in the first place) or camagic now, i just thought he may have missed it and i just remembered the old thread because it was myself who had asked about the US region as the change came up and was told what you can read above.

In case of disagreement please argue with support and/or Laghmara :p

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PPS: check the US-ES page ...they have the updated one it seems, lol. even AU has it ;)

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Thursday, May 2nd 2013, 7:10am

Quoted from "YomanROM;599805"


"All players are permitted to play the online game Runes of Magic with multiple accounts."

We had pretty heavy discussions about the topic in the german forums because the general terms of use state that multi accounts are not allowed at all - but thats a GF text module for all their games we were told. So they came up with the Community Guidelines /"Rules of Behaviour" (if i translate it 1:1 :D) and stated there specifically for ROM that multiple accounts are indeed allowed. And Laghmara confirmed that it is supposed to be the same in all Gameforge regions of ROM.

;)


This might also be due to old ROM account system. Long time back (with Frogster and yusho account management) ROM allowed players to create up to 5 accounts with same email address. i.e. one yusho account but upto 5 game account. Thats where the "5 account per player" number came from.
Since lots of such accounts will still be active in game keeping that in mind so Gameforge has to allow such system in ROM. Also many yime GM/CM statted ROM allowes multiclienting but specified that multiboxing is against EULA. Also in T&c linked in above post...

"You may access the System and use it to play the Game from any single computer or game platform. You shall not access the System or play the Game concurrently on different computers and/or game platforms(multiboxing)."

I guess that explains few things in last few posts.

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Thursday, May 2nd 2013, 3:53pm

Quoted from "camagic;599799"

The five account limit is in effect with GAI(I leave it up to you on how to pronounce that) and can be found here: http://agbserver.gameforge.com/enUS-Term…s-of-Magic.html
paragraph 2 C.

The gobbly goop at the loading of client Still references FAI, which really isnt a viable "entity" anymore.


Is it so hard to say - you guys are right, I am wrong?! :)

This was discussed here, and just as arvind2003 noticed, old 5 account per email are disabled, you can get only 1 per email, and all of us who have old ones, are allowed to separate them. (not that I like to try another tool like that :))

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Saturday, May 4th 2013, 1:31am

Quoted from "YomanROM;599805"

sigh, did they not align it correctly or change something again? well not my problem tbh, but just for the sake of the argument:

https://forum.runesofmagic.com/showthrea…l=1#post4408777 post 102, 105, 106

the first link from Laghmara in p102 is the german version of this one in english here: http://agbserver.gameforge.com/enGB-Comm…s-of-Magic.html (linked on the bottom of the US page too, as enGB-guidelines )

"All players are permitted to play the online game Runes of Magic with multiple accounts."


in p105 i asked specifically if that's in effect for US too , and in 106 the answer should be pretty clear even if you dont understand german. in short: the community guidelines and the terms of use are the same for all Gameforge regions.

--

We had pretty heavy discussions about the topic in the german forums because the general terms of use state that multi accounts are not allowed at all - but thats a GF text module for all their games we were told. So they came up with the Community Guidelines /"Rules of Behaviour" (if i translate it 1:1 :D) and stated there specifically for ROM that multiple accounts are indeed allowed. And Laghmara confirmed that it is supposed to be the same in all Gameforge regions of ROM.


PS: 'is not to bash Raves (in the first place) or camagic now, i just thought he may have missed it and i just remembered the old thread because it was myself who had asked about the US region as the change came up and was told what you can read above.

In case of disagreement please argue with support and/or Laghmara :p

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PPS: check the US-ES page ...they have the updated one it seems, lol. even AU has it ;)


tl;dr, wats max accts u can have xD

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Saturday, May 4th 2013, 2:18am

from enGB terms which is the assumed correct one:

"The user is allowed to take part in each game round (i.e. world, universe) of an online game with one user account only, unless the rules of the game provide for specific exceptions."

game rules / guidelines:
"All players are permitted to play the online game Runes of Magic with multiple accounts."

TLDR: &#8734;


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Using them concurrently is a slightly different thing, if i remember correctly (not from terms but from Silberfuchs back then :p): if youre going to run multiple clients at once, do it a) manually without 3rd party software and b) stick to one machine (aka multiCLIENTING is ok, multiBOXING would be not).