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Tuesday, October 4th 2011, 11:11pm

well, i was coming back

i was planning on coming back to ROM but i decided to check the forums to see what all has been done. i was pretty disappointed and glad i took a little time reading the current things going on.

no real changes have been put in place to make a difference with the economy, just a cheap smoke and mirrors show with the "ban hammer". that and reading other posts stating that all the patches have already been made and are currently being played in korea and they are being released over time here as normal only assured me that bugs and glitches will only be fixed by already made patches that wont be released till later.

i didnt stop playing because the economy was bad, anyone can have fun playing with minimal gear/items. but i got tired of dieing because vanish is broken, losing guild sieges because another guild will have 3-4 wardens force crashing our guild, and a horrible dmg/def calulations rom uses.

all it would take to make the game the best ftp game in the world would be to fix bugs, and bridge the gap between new players and end gamers. fix the dmg/def calculations so players can actually progress through instances and raids. i couldnt run DOD till my guild carried me through there a few times to gear up. the only other way to do it is spend a few hundred dollars statting lower gear that i would end up replacing with new gear i would have to spend even more money on to stat to run the next instances. if you allow players to progress as a player and not a customer, they wont be so reliant on other players running instances to sell them the gear, which there wont be such a demand for gold, and people wouldnt decided to buy gold from spammers so much. (yes QQ endgamers for you wouldnt be monopolizing gear anymore)

people would still have to buy diamonds for gear to be statted (and what ever other goodies) whether they buy diamonds directly or from players with gold, someone still has to spend real money on them.

but this will never happen. FA has proven that with how they are currently conducting the game, and if those posts are correct about the game is how ever much progressed in korea and patches come to the EU and US game later on. well, there is no hope at all, and pleads fall on deaf ears because the games' future is already set

take care ROM players, and good luck

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Tuesday, October 4th 2011, 11:45pm

Quoted from "kicouto;470884"

i was planning on coming back to ROM but i decided to check the forums to see what all has been done. i was pretty disappointed and glad i took a little time reading the current things going on.

no real changes have been put in place to make a difference with the economy, just a cheap smoke and mirrors show with the "ban hammer". that and reading other posts stating that all the patches have already been made and are currently being played in korea and they are being released over time here as normal only assured me that bugs and glitches will only be fixed by already made patches that wont be released till later.

i didnt stop playing because the economy was bad, anyone can have fun playing with minimal gear/items. but i got tired of dieing because vanish is broken, losing guild sieges because another guild will have 3-4 wardens force crashing our guild, and a horrible dmg/def calulations rom uses.

all it would take to make the game the best ftp game in the world would be to fix bugs, and bridge the gap between new players and end gamers. fix the dmg/def calculations so players can actually progress through instances and raids. i couldnt run DOD till my guild carried me through there a few times to gear up. the only other way to do it is spend a few hundred dollars statting lower gear that i would end up replacing with new gear i would have to spend even more money on to stat to run the next instances. if you allow players to progress as a player and not a customer, they wont be so reliant on other players running instances to sell them the gear, which there wont be such a demand for gold, and people wouldnt decided to buy gold from spammers so much. (yes QQ endgamers for you wouldnt be monopolizing gear anymore)

people would still have to buy diamonds for gear to be statted (and what ever other goodies) whether they buy diamonds directly or from players with gold, someone still has to spend real money on them.

but this will never happen. FA has proven that with how they are currently conducting the game, and if those posts are correct about the game is how ever much progressed in korea and patches come to the EU and US game later on. well, there is no hope at all, and pleads fall on deaf ears because the games' future is already set

take care ROM players, and good luck


There is no such thing as a video game without bugs. There are issues that exist but we do try to fix as much as possible.

I know you didn't get a chance to see this before your post, but this is one of the things we are doing for the economy: http://us.runesofmagic.com/us/news,id241…nfestation.html . I think that by the end of the month you'll see a difference.

We are still trying to work with Runewaker to fix the Warden exploit, but there is a workaround that you can do yourself to make sure that doesn't happen to to you: http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=63712

Localization doesn't mean that we simply slap a "US" sticker on it. You would be surprised at the number of times patches have been delayed because we wanted things changed first. The game's future (as you described it) is certainly not set in stone.

Just know that we are constantly listening to you guys and trying our best to accommodate you.
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Wednesday, October 5th 2011, 12:01am

Some bugs would be fine but last night with all settings on low I crashed 5 times during siege. I crash 75% of the time leaving Dalanis. I crash if I use Snoop more than once. I crash in Varanis 60% of the time.


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Wednesday, October 5th 2011, 12:06am

Quoted from "Swag;470914"

There is no such thing as a video game without bugs. There are issues that exist but we do try to fix as much as possible.

"Possible" seems to be a relative term, since in my opinion there is a lot more - a whole lot more - that could be fixed if Runewaker pulled their fingers out and actually did something about it.

I know you didn't get a chance to see this before your post, but this is one of the things we are doing for the economy: http://us.runesofmagic.com/us/news,id241…nfestation.html . I think that by the end of the month you'll see a difference.

A difference? Riiiiiight. You'll forgive a little skepticism - if the malatina-reset for traps is any indication of the future offerings of this NPC, I'm not holding my breath on "difference".

We are still trying to work with Runewaker to fix the Warden exploit, but there is a workaround that you can do yourself to make sure that doesn't happen to to you: http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=63712

I still find it pathetically sad that it took a workaround from a player to deal with a problem that Runewaker have had a very long time to fix. This is the kind of stuff that really leaves Runewaker and Frogster looking... well just plain incompetent.

Localization doesn't mean that we simply slap a "US" sticker on it. You would be surprised at the number of times patches have been delayed because we wanted things changed first. The game's future (as you described it) is certainly not set in stone.

I find it amusing that you say that when in essence what you are getting is a second-hand, hand-me-down Asian game that has been translated and "localised" for us... The game's future is wherever Runewaker want to take it - since it seems they aren't really interested in what Frogster have to say.

After what is turning into years, the important stuff still hasn't been fixed, and you've basically come out and said that some of it won't be fixed. Thanks for the honesty, but now we can see the reality of it. If Runewaker can't find it in their hearts to even work on something like redesigning guild castles to make the walls "unshootthroughable", what hope do we have for anything else?

Just know that we are constantly listening to you guys and trying our best to accommodate you.

Well... the jury is out on that one since most of the stuff we suggest on the forums that is in Frogster's jurisdiction of control never seems to surface. What we get seems to be what Frogster / Runewaker want to give us, even if it is directly at odds with what the players have been asking for / complaining about on the forums.


So yeah... Sorry Swag, but I'm not convinced by any of that. Frogster and Runewaker are going to have to do better - and I mean much better - if they are going to dig the game out of the hole it's sliding into.
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Wednesday, October 5th 2011, 12:10am

Quoted from "gravitypress;470924"

Some bugs would be fine but last night with all settings on low I crashed 5 times during siege. I crash 75% of the time leaving Dalanis. I crash if I use Snoop more than once. I crash in Varanis 60% of the time.


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Your rig is definitely good enough, it sounds like there is something else weird going on. Post your full system specs (HDD, OS, Power supply etc...) along with exactly what you are doing in the Bugs forum and we'll try to help you there.
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Wednesday, October 5th 2011, 12:18am

Quoted from "Swag;470914"

There is no such thing as a video game without bugs. There are issues that exist but we do try to fix as much as possible.

I know you didn't get a chance to see this before your post, but this is one of the things we are doing for the economy: http://us.runesofmagic.com/us/news,id241…nfestation.html . I think that by the end of the month you'll see a difference.

We are still trying to work with Runewaker to fix the Warden exploit, but there is a workaround that you can do yourself to make sure that doesn't happen to to you: http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=63712

Localization doesn't mean that we simply slap a "US" sticker on it. You would be surprised at the number of times patches have been delayed because we wanted things changed first. The game's future (as you described it) is certainly not set in stone.

Just know that we are constantly listening to you guys and trying our best to accommodate you.


Very true. But what the community here is saying is. This game is filled with fun killing bugs. Unnecessary patches for crap that don't matter. FA and RW is not listening to the people who pay their paychecks. You mention the games future...I can tell you this. If you don't start listening to your community on stuff they want versus crap you think needs to be fixed...your game is DEAD.

It's Rogue(R...O...G...U...E). Rouge is a cosmetic!

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Wednesday, October 5th 2011, 12:22am

swag, while i appreciate that you make an attempt to communicate with the player base, there are bugs in this game that have persisted so long that they are now called features. release 3 chapters and nerf and buff and renerf classes but a blind eye is turned to mechanics.

we still have to go to the eu forum for news as well. jus sayin. siege is still beta but we have time to nerf equipment? knights get dps? warden bug gets a "workaround" instead of being fixed and oak walker still suicides, but we have time to nerf vendors?

cd's and gcd's have increased over time while effectiveness of certain skills have decreased or become dependent on other skills, but macros nerfed which are pretty much required to keep things moving smoothly.

and the biggest self admitted botter on grimdal has already confirmed he was able to get his bots working again. so who the f*^& did rw/fa really hurt in this patch? the legit player as always.

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Wednesday, October 5th 2011, 12:22am

Quoted from "Swag;470933"

Your rig is definitely good enough, it sounds like there is something else weird going on. Post your full system specs (HDD, OS, Power supply etc...) along with exactly what you are doing in the Bugs forum and we'll try to help you there.

Same really...
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Been like this since beta ;)

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Wednesday, October 5th 2011, 12:30am

Great now I want puddin' !!

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Wednesday, October 5th 2011, 1:19am

Quoted from "Swag;470933"

Your rig is definitely good enough, it sounds like there is something else weird going on. Post your full system specs (HDD, OS, Power supply etc...) along with exactly what you are doing in the Bugs forum and we'll try to help you there.

His power supply, HDD, OS etc.. has nothing to do with why the game crashes, and frankly I'm tired of seeing FA asking for system specs etc.. when someone claims their game is crashing. The facts are if it were his PSU, HDD, OS etc.. the entire computer would crash, not just "single out" ROM and decide to just crash that.

I don't care who you are or what kind of computer you have, this game has and will crash on you. Anyone who has been playing awhile has experienced cities or zones completely disappearing. Files, textures etc... bugging out and not loading properly has nothing to do with your system. It's game files getting corrupted and just poor coding.

Not saying that other games do not crash, but this one has a fairly high crash rate compared to any other game I've played. Not to mention most that crash this often have since been patched, in beta.
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Wednesday, October 5th 2011, 1:28am

I agree with Swag on that every game has it's bugs and glitches. But the game sure does loses it's enjoyment when you spend a long time getting them, upgrading them and you know, just for them to disappear for no reason.

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Wednesday, October 5th 2011, 1:51am

Quoted from "sewerpipe;471022"

His power supply, HDD, OS etc.. has nothing to do with why the game crashes, and frankly I'm tired of seeing FA asking for system specs etc.. when someone claims their game is crashing. The facts are if it were his PSU, HDD, OS etc.. the entire computer would crash, not just "single out" ROM and decide to just crash that.

I don't care who you are or what kind of computer you have, this game has and will crash on you. Anyone who has been playing awhile has experienced cities or zones completely disappearing. Files, textures etc... bugging out and not loading properly has nothing to do with your system. It's game files getting corrupted and just poor coding.

Not saying that other games do not crash, but this one has a fairly high crash rate compared to any other game I've played. Not to mention most that crash this often have since been patched, in beta.


I want to see the server specs. We won't get to see them thought because you know that they are running a low end server that is probably the biggest part of much of the lag.
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Wednesday, October 5th 2011, 3:10am

Run Kicouto, Run away as fast as you can!!!
Swag you KNOW everytime you get ported into Dalanis
YOU CRASH !!!!!! I laugh to see how far I can get to Snoop
b4 it happens and it happens every time !
Some sieges I never crash then in others w/Wardens using
the crash buff I'll crash as many times as I can login and out ina hour.
OH- but seige is "still" Beta so it does'nt matter. bugs bugs bugs everywhere
but notta one you can at least kill to gain a little exp from .... lol

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Sunday, October 9th 2011, 12:49am

Hey

I have been playing runes of magic for over year now and i am finding the crash rate is getting crazy if this could be fixed i would have no issues with the game.

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Sunday, October 9th 2011, 10:23am

Crashing is not new to the game, and I find it laughable that you Swag would try to say it is anything other than the shotty, swiss cheese-esk, leaky code that the game runs. This game has, is, and will continue to cause memory leaks. This has been proven by many of the old timer, most of which who no longer play, and are even now starting to no longer post here. So you go right ahead and try to convince the new players that it is their computer specs that make them crash, and someone will keep on pointing out it's the game engine code that is doing it.

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Wednesday, October 12th 2011, 2:19am

I don't think the infamous memory leak was ever truly fixed. Port around a lot and you'll crash.

I've not installed RoM back onto my system since I wiped it and installed 7, but I'm guessing I'll still crash going into Dalanis or Varanas.

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Wednesday, October 12th 2011, 2:29am

Quoted from "kicouto;470884"

i was planning on coming back to ROM but i decided to check the forums to see what all has been done. i was pretty disappointed and glad i took a little time reading the current things going on.

no real changes have been put in place to make a difference with the economy, just a cheap smoke and mirrors show with the "ban hammer". that and reading other posts stating that all the patches have already been made and are currently being played in korea and they are being released over time here as normal only assured me that bugs and glitches will only be fixed by already made patches that wont be released till later.

i didnt stop playing because the economy was bad, anyone can have fun playing with minimal gear/items. but i got tired of dieing because vanish is broken, losing guild sieges because another guild will have 3-4 wardens force crashing our guild, and a horrible dmg/def calulations rom uses.

all it would take to make the game the best ftp game in the world would be to fix bugs, and bridge the gap between new players and end gamers. fix the dmg/def calculations so players can actually progress through instances and raids. i couldnt run DOD till my guild carried me through there a few times to gear up. the only other way to do it is spend a few hundred dollars statting lower gear that i would end up replacing with new gear i would have to spend even more money on to stat to run the next instances. if you allow players to progress as a player and not a customer, they wont be so reliant on other players running instances to sell them the gear, which there wont be such a demand for gold, and people wouldnt decided to buy gold from spammers so much. (yes QQ endgamers for you wouldnt be monopolizing gear anymore)

people would still have to buy diamonds for gear to be statted (and what ever other goodies) whether they buy diamonds directly or from players with gold, someone still has to spend real money on them.

but this will never happen. FA has proven that with how they are currently conducting the game, and if those posts are correct about the game is how ever much progressed in korea and patches come to the EU and US game later on. well, there is no hope at all, and pleads fall on deaf ears because the games' future is already set

take care ROM players, and good luck


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Wednesday, October 12th 2011, 2:58am

Quoted from "wolfowl77;473736"

I don't think the infamous memory leak was ever truly fixed. Port around a lot and you'll crash.

I've not installed RoM back onto my system since I wiped it and installed 7, but I'm guessing I'll still crash going into Dalanis or Varanas.

I guarantee it will crash. I left for awhile, came back with a new/updated computer. Very high end gaming machine, and it crashes. So that's proof in the pudding that it's the game itself and not peoples computers.

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QQ

And your post isn't?

Someone complains about the game it's labeled QQ..
Someone who complains someone is QQ'ing is.. well QQ..
Me making this post about your post.. is QQ..

Get it?.. so really it's all QQ. You're just calling the kettle black. :rolleyes:
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Wednesday, October 12th 2011, 5:32am

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I guarantee it will crash. I left for awhile, came back with a new/updated computer. Very high end gaming machine, and it crashes. So that's proof in the pudding that it's the game itself and not peoples computers.


Crashing and client-side lag issues are probably the most significant problem with the game. It's simply beyond exasperating. It's easy to lay blame on peoples' poor systems, though, so that's what will continue to come from people who've already made up their mind that the current stability is acceptable. The fact is that the problem is far too widespread and documented from people with a full range of PC quality to be chalked up to users operating on something they bought for $100 at the corner drug store.
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Thursday, October 13th 2011, 12:20pm

Quoted from "Swag;470914"

There is no such thing as a video game without bugs. There are issues that exist but we do try to fix as much as possible..


I just want to say that of all the games I've played, this has been the buggiest, most unstable game I have ever come across. And it does not get better over time, which is what you'd expect of something that is getting "fixed". And it is quite often blamed on the user's system, not the game itself. I find it very hard to believe it's not the game when pretty much everybody I know in game has the same issues (crashing, graphic glitches, lag in the best case scenario; guilds, ah, houses, instances, teleporting not working in the worst case) regardless of their computer specs.

So while there's no such thing as a video game without bugs, there is such a thing as a video game with support that actually does something about the bugs.

Personally, I put up with those bugs for over a year, until I got sick of a week+ of guildies being removed from guild and having to be reinvited. A week+ of teleporting not working, but still taking teleport runes and money. Two weeks+ of a housemaid being missing and one of our guild's tank's weapon and shield being missing for over two weeks with constant messages about them being returned when they weren't.

There's bugs.

And then there's just plain ridiculous.