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Friday, October 21st 2011, 5:00am

SW Warden intentionally crashing

A guild which will remain nameless from the Osha server has to resort to using the warden exploit to beat 3 people in Siege War? Even after being asked repeatedly to remove it they did nothing. Poor form by all accounts. 3 vs. 18+ people and they still must resort to exploits.

If your from Osha and this is fammiliar feel free to pm me on here or ingame. I lead TheRookery on Reni~ lets keep sw clean people -.-

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Friday, October 21st 2011, 6:41am

It's can be fixed.

Man, seriously you need to venture in forums regularly. I download a zip file in the forums that help fixed the warden exploits.it works nicely. It's hilarious to see those guys trying that in siege with us. Lol

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Friday, October 21st 2011, 7:29am

Quoted from "kilot80;476572"

Man, seriously you need to venture in forums regularly. I download a zip file in the forums that help fixed the warden exploits.it works nicely. It's hilarious to see those guys trying that in siege with us. Lol


^^This. The fix is simple and easy to install, Swag even talked about it on ROMCast #18. That said, I have been recently informed by Swag that using Heart of the Oak to intentionally crash people is still considered an exploit, and he has no idea when an official fix will be implemented.

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Friday, October 21st 2011, 6:13pm

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Friday, October 21st 2011, 8:29pm

For what it's worth, the fix didn't work for me on the thin client, but worked when I used it with the normal client. So I play thin client most of the time and switch to normal client for SW. You can install two copies of the game if you put them in different install folders.

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Friday, October 21st 2011, 9:54pm

So even if asked a low level warden wont take off an expoloit just so they can win sw? Thats ratty. And ya im on the forums plenty, its been known to be an exploit therefore shouldnt be used till its actually fixed, just like shadow stepping gates -.- or by your logic i can shadow step a guy on the low ledges in your castle and ninja everything, you know becuause its not 100% absolutly a dick move or anything...lol

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Saturday, October 22nd 2011, 7:09am

Why should a warden have to take off their mainstay pvp buff when there is a fix available to fix your crashing? Without a fix, i agree, take it off... but now that a fix is publically availible and endorsed by Swag there is no excuse but laziness on your part to not have it installed. See it from the warden's point of view once in a while.

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Saturday, October 22nd 2011, 7:24am

Quoted from "helvarien;476679"

For what it's worth, the fix didn't work for me on the thin client, but worked when I used it with the normal client. So I play thin client most of the time and switch to normal client for SW. You can install two copies of the game if you put them in different install folders.


The fix, workaround, or whatever one wants to call it works with both the slim and full clients. Fully and successfully tested.


Quoted from "Boulvide;476702"

So even if asked a low level warden wont take off an expoloit just so they can win sw? Thats ratty. And ya im on the forums plenty, its been known to be an exploit therefore shouldnt be used till its actually fixed, just like shadow stepping gates -.- or by your logic i can shadow step a guy on the low ledges in your castle and ninja everything, you know becuause its not 100% absolutly a dick move or anything...lol


You obviously don't visit the forums often enough, since you're unaware that it has been impossible to use Shadow Step to get past an intact gate in siege since Chapter IV went live. Nor, apparently, were you aware of or informed about the workaround for the so-called "Warden exploit".

Just saying.

It'd be nice if someone would just close this thread.

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Monday, October 24th 2011, 1:55pm

Use the fix. I have been for some time now and I have not crashed in siege once because of it.

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Monday, October 24th 2011, 8:08pm

You obviously don't visit the forums often enough, since you're unaware that it has been impossible to use Shadow Step to get past an intact gate in siege since Chapter IV went live. Nor, apparently, were you aware of or informed about the workaround for the so-called "Warden exploit".

and you obviously dont read everything, i said nothing about shadow stepping any gate lol

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Monday, October 24th 2011, 8:18pm

Quoted from "Boulvide;476702"

So even if asked a low level warden wont take off an expoloit just so they can win sw? Thats ratty. And ya im on the forums plenty, its been known to be an exploit therefore shouldnt be used till its actually fixed, just like shadow stepping gates -.- or by your logic i can shadow step a guy on the low ledges in your castle and ninja everything, you know becuause its not 100% absolutly a dick move or anything...lol


If I could install a small file on my computer that would prevent people from shooting through walls, shadow stepping gates, etc., and I did NOT install that file, I would not feel like I had a leg to stand on when it comes to accusing others of cheating/exploiting.

There is a very simple remedy to the Warden crash issue; if you choose not to install it on principle or because you're lazy, the problem lies with you, not the Warden.
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Monday, October 24th 2011, 10:48pm

Quoted from "TheMann64;477449"

if you choose not to install it on principle or because you're lazy, the problem lies with you, not the Warden.



until there is an OFFICIAL fix by RW/FAI/whoever, it is still an exploit and bannable if used and asked to stop and frapsed, and the problem still lies with the warden.


as ive said, its not the player's responsibility to provide unofficial fixes, and if i catch a warden on fraps with the buff and i crash, you better believe the warden is responsible.


also, members of my guild that did install the fix, still crash from it from time to time, so its not 100% reliable, which is to be expected from an "unofficial" fix.


furthermore, is it not stated in the ToS that you CANNOT alter the game?

seems to me an unofficial player-made fix installed into your game files is altering the game and therefore breaking the terms:

its actually stated in:


3. MISCONDUCT:

3a. HACKS, CHEATS, MACROS, MODIFICATIONS, ETC.

Line 1/Sentence 1.) You may not use any of your own or third-party software to modify the Game Content to change Game play.


so no thanks.

ill wait for an official fix, and until such a time, continue frapsing wardens and getting them suspended/banned for exploiting :)
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Tuesday, October 25th 2011, 12:03am

lol we went through this with the remove spell effects folder too... It's not altering the game because you're not changing the base code just what file is being read first. Which only changes how well the game runs on your machine like any addon. It's not a TOS violation.

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Tuesday, October 25th 2011, 12:38am

Quoted from "acypcar90;477512"

until there is an OFFICIAL fix by RW/FAI/whoever, it is still an exploit and bannable if used and asked to stop and frapsed, and the problem still lies with the warden.



ill wait for an official fix, and until such a time, continue frapsing wardens and getting them suspended/banned for exploiting :)


You have WAAAAAAY too much confidence in RW/FAI's ability to get stuff done. This has been going on for months, and it will probably be months until it's ever fixed.

And honestly, I find it kind of disturbing that you'd rather go around, get yourself crashed, and try to get other players banned rather than download a very small file that in no way alters the game itself. That small bit of effort will stop you from having to spend your time relogging & reporting "exploiting" wardens, and it will allow legit wardens to actually use the buffs the class was intended to use. Win-win situation here....
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Tuesday, October 25th 2011, 1:34am

lol. just lol. i see people crash with no wardens buffed around. so something tells me there is yet another exploit in play that hasnt been identified yet. im leaning towards +16 weapon effects.
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Tuesday, October 25th 2011, 2:18am

Quoted from "acypcar90;477512"



3. MISCONDUCT:

3a. HACKS, CHEATS, MACROS, MODIFICATIONS, ETC.

Line 1/Sentence 1.) You may not use any of your own or third-party [B][B]software[/B]<==(putting red lights on that peculiar word) to modify the Game Content to change Game play.[/B]


Putting blank files on an animation DOES NOT alter the game itself. Not as much as modifying your UI, yet im pretty sure you do. Same goes for any addon you have on your game. Yet, there's even a FORUM SECTION for addons, etc. There is QQing and there is looking out for any QQ possible...

If you had to set up flags or change values of pointers, etc with a 3rd party program (like any cheat engine). THEN i might've said: yeah..it's against the TOS..

Put blank files on the animation or let yourself crash. Maybe one day FAI/RW will put blank files in a further patch? like they did the the remove spell effect. (yes yes, before it was in game you had to put, yet again, blank files on some special effects if you wanted to reduce lag).

Also,
Exploitation
noun
the fact of making use of a situation to gain unfair advantage for oneself


Since there's the workaround it's not an advantage anymore, because by ''fixing'' it yourself, you're bringing yourself back to fairness, in a way.
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Tuesday, October 25th 2011, 6:40am

Quoted from "acypcar90;477512"

until there is an OFFICIAL fix by RW/FAI/whoever, it is still an exploit and bannable if used and asked to stop and frapsed, and the problem still lies with the warden.


as ive said, its not the player's responsibility to provide unofficial fixes, and if i catch a warden on fraps with the buff and i crash, you better believe the warden is responsible.


also, members of my guild that did install the fix, still crash from it from time to time, so its not 100% reliable, which is to be expected from an "unofficial" fix.


furthermore, is it not stated in the ToS that you CANNOT alter the game?

seems to me an unofficial player-made fix installed into your game files is altering the game and therefore breaking the terms:

its actually stated in:


3. MISCONDUCT:

3a. HACKS, CHEATS, MACROS, MODIFICATIONS, ETC.

Line 1/Sentence 1.) You may not use any of your own or third-party software to modify the Game Content to change Game play.


so no thanks.

ill wait for an official fix, and until such a time, continue frapsing wardens and getting them suspended/banned for exploiting :)


I put in a ticket relating to a particular warden crashing siege.

I recieved a reply from support that contained a link to the workaround posted on this forum. I was also told in the reply to use the workaround until RW came up with a solution.

That in my book means use of the warden fix posted by a player on the forum is in fact supported & encouraged by FA.
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Tuesday, October 25th 2011, 6:43am

Save the trouble and agruing

ill wait for an official fix, and until such a time, continue frapsing wardens and getting them suspended/banned for exploiting :)[/QUOTE]

Buddy seriously, siege is still in beta mode and there's hell lot of things waiting to be fixed. Since there is a fix for the warden exploit, try it out personally 1st.
I install the files and they work fine. So try it out. Enjoy siege. Why waste your precious time on this kind of issue. :)
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Tuesday, October 25th 2011, 2:39pm

boo who all i here is crying if your dumb self doesn't want to download a small file to make the game play better and is been noted from GM's that is a small fix for now then fraps your self for being a cry baby go ahead. I was in a Siege with no wardens and crashed more than a siege with wardens its the game not wardens all that fix did was remove some character affects so the game wouldn't crash.

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Tuesday, October 25th 2011, 2:49pm

We were up against a Palenque guild last night that put a warden on a mount and had him fly all over the battlefield. He never actually FOUGHT at first...just got as close to everyone as possible. I thought it odd, until all my guildies started crashing. Ohhhhh.....got it.

Those of us who had already installed the workaround were fine and held the fort. We told everyone else to quick come to the forums and grab the fix, and then get back in game. Worked like a charm. And sure enough, once everyone stopped crashing, the warden stopped flying around with his buff on.

Just FYI to the guild in question: Y'all weren't going to win that one anyways. Too bad you couldn't just have lost with some of your honor intact.
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