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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 5:35pm

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Your right, it is easier said then done. However, no matter what business your into you have to be able to adapt to current situations. I mean all businesses change and do what it takes to continue to be profitable. I am no expert on databases, but I do know that records have to be "unique" in order to merge them into any documents. How hard is that, I mean if they Merged Palenque with another server, then just add a "P" to the end of all the fields or any character that would them unique. This would eliminate the duplicate issue. I am sure there is much more to it than just this but I it can be done.

I think that any new players coming to ROM, and lets say go to palenque, they won't stay. They will see how little activity there is and how boring it will be with no one to help you or answer your questions. They will leave, I know I would. However, if the servers merged, new players would see a whole lot more activity and therefore be more inclined to stay. Common Sense I think!


It's not hard at all, I work with databases every day.
1 - You need to find out if there are duplicate toon or guild names.
2 - If there are more then 1 then you need to have 1 or more agree to a name change.
3 - Those are the 2 biggest ones I can think of but I'm sure there is much more I'm not thinking about.
4 - And most important, You need to have someone that knows how to do it, which from my experience with C/S, they clearly don't.
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Friday, May 11th 2012, 6:27pm

I was lookiong at one of the newest pay to play games that just came out. Although it looks pretty, it apparently ahs some major issues that need som massive attention to get fixed. One of my friends decided to start playing ti and he let me know for the moment to stay away from it. Yall think the PvP mechanics are borken here, in that game they are totaly fubared to the point that a lot of players will not do the PvP elements 9including my friend who is a PvP junkie). My problem with said game is the monthly cost. Ok I know RoM can get rather costly to play, but I ahve managed to ween myself from buying every new shiny bauble in the CS by limiting my diamond purchases to only getting enough for waht I need.
I still am gonna wait for CH5 though before making any major decision for my gaming habit, but I truthfully do not feel i wiill totaly abbandom RoM.

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Friday, May 11th 2012, 10:53pm

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Ok I know RoM can get rather costly to play, but I ahve managed to ween myself from buying every new shiny bauble in the CS by limiting my diamond purchases to only getting enough for waht I need.


Which is still hundreds more than you would ever pay for a 15 dollar a month subscription. (To be competitive endgame of course.. if you're not wishing to play endgame then this doesn't apply)
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Monday, May 14th 2012, 8:41am

Concidering that RoM is always evolving, and expanding, I cannot in good faith believe there is a such thing as "Endgame" for us.

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Monday, May 14th 2012, 11:46pm

Well as a former player of this game, the honest reasons I quit.

1) SW is broken (probably still is) sick of random crashes in game that never get fixed.
2) Sick of hearing that nothing is frogsters fault instead its always the programmers fault.
3) Game is just way too expensive when you reach max level, well if you actaully want to be strong anyways.
4) Game is unbalanced, certain classes are way stronger than others. (ie. Scout/rogue)
5) I am seriously over guild driven games, This is just my personal preference I prefer to rely on myself.
6) End game professions are pretty much useless as game drops are better, so whats the point in maxing a profession oh there isn't.
7) Diablo 3 is released so I am going there.
8) I honesty just don't like the way frogster deals with their clients & games. They seem to be a greedy company, that doesn't care about the people that pay their paychecks. In time this will ruin this company.
9) Adding new content when old content is still buggy or broken..
10) Grinding for hours for mems... gets really boring really quickly... I just get one set just about complete then boom new content and gear to re-up, + and stat...never ending diamond grab..

These are a few but most the main points i can think of top of my head.

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Tuesday, May 15th 2012, 12:12am

Quoted from "Mayotruck;530422"

Well as a former player of this game, the honest reasons I quit.

1) SW is broken (probably still is) sick of random crashes in game that never get fixed.
2) Sick of hearing that nothing is frogsters fault instead its always the programmers fault.
3) Game is just way too expensive when you reach max level, well if you actaully want to be strong anyways.
4) Game is unbalanced, certain classes are way stronger than others. (ie. Scout/rogue)
5) I am seriously over guild driven games, This is just my personal preference I prefer to rely on myself.
6) End game professions are pretty much useless as game drops are better, so whats the point in maxing a profession oh there isn't.
7) Diablo 3 is released so I am going there.
8) I honesty just don't like the way frogster deals with their clients & games. They seem to be a greedy company, that doesn't care about the people that pay their paychecks. In time this will ruin this company.
9) Adding new content when old content is still buggy or broken..
10) Grinding for hours for mems... gets really boring really quickly... I just get one set just about complete then boom new content and gear to re-up, + and stat...never ending diamond grab..

These are a few but most the main points i can think of top of my head.


Agreed mostly.

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Tuesday, May 15th 2012, 1:28am

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Well as a former player of this game, the honest reasons I quit.

1) SW is broken (probably still is) sick of random crashes in game that never get fixed.


SW is in Beta, never forget that. You playtest basically. If you do not like the Beta of this feature, do not play it. There are tons of other features in this game, and an awesome community.


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2) Sick of hearing that nothing is frogsters fault instead its always the programmers fault.


Hm, i could replace that with sick of hearing that all is the users fault and never the publishers fault. While I see where you are coming from, I truly wish some errors, flaws and bugs would be easier to fix. But this is no time of pointing fingers. Because it is never that easy and we never did do that. So I find this point rather .. odd. We can only assist you on your side for technical issues and such, and give advices.

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3) Game is just way too expensive when you reach max level, well if you actaully want to be strong anyways.


The game is free to play. It depends on what you want to spend more... money or time... and personally as a player i think a MMO-game should never be about winning but about having fun with friends.

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4) Game is unbalanced, certain classes are way stronger than others. (ie. Scout/rogue)


And all across this forum even opinions differ. Every class right now can be played to the fullest. Any flaws can be overcome even without the use of the IS, just with friends. So please name me examples, why a class can not be played without money. I gladly forward them.


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5) I am seriously over guild driven games, This is just my personal preference I prefer to rely on myself.


I am not sure i understand this point. Guilds are the essence of an MMO just as is the community. Please elaborate.


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6) End game professions are pretty much useless as game drops are better, so whats the point in maxing a profession oh there isn't.


Gladly forwarded but still i love to craft. But I agree the crafters in this game need a little push to existence.

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7) Diablo 3 is released so I am going there.


Me too ^^ Gladly this world and us are not fixated on one game, one purpose. I wait just as much as you on that one game, yet still I will play this one. And I am sure I am not alone with that. I also play several other MMO some of them P2P, and still play RoM. Such is the ways of the interwebs.

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8) I honesty just don't like the way frogster deals with their clients & games. They seem to be a greedy company, that doesn't care about the people that pay their paychecks. In time this will ruin this company.


Any company that just cares about their paychecks and not their customers dies. I think this is a false statement and am sad that you feel that way. Still your assumption is wrong and misleading.

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9) Adding new content when old content is still buggy or broken..


Adding new content is part of what keeps MMOs alive for endgamers and those who wish to be endgamer. Fixing old content and adding new content do not interfere with each other, as these are separate teams.

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10) Grinding for hours for mems... gets really boring really quickly... I just get one set just about complete then boom new content and gear to re-up, + and stat...never ending diamond grab..


MMOs grow and develop as they grow. Be part of a guild, have friends, that is what an MMO is about. Together you can manage anything. MMOs are not single player games. You decide as player what you want to invest more, money or time. No effort you make is vain. A smaller player might have use of what you achieved if you outreached that limit.

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Tuesday, May 15th 2012, 1:58am

Quoted from "MegaMouseSEC;528535"

Ok guys this is getting crazy. Lately I ahve seen more and more people leaving RoM to play other games that may or may not last.

When Gameforge took over CS (Customer Support) went downhill quickly. Most things they cannot fix; and all replies are prefaced with a "I sent you a message to confirm, why didn't you reply? It must be solved!" when oddly enough you got the second message. They have lost items (I have too). Lag issues are worsening. The timing of diamond sales in regards to specials is odd to say the least (Frogster did a better job). The usual sales are a bit odd to say the least.

I've remained because of a few things about the game, and because I'm a guild leader. Most of my best friends from Chapter 1 have left. Many have come back and told me I'm making a big mistake in staying with the game because Gameforge is shutting it down (less and less money coming in).

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Tuesday, May 15th 2012, 3:22am

These points from Dio I can agree with totaly: #2 Dio's answer was right on the money. The developers are the only ones that can fix bugs, not the publisher. #6 I also love to craft, but something needs to dearly give in here. In every other MMO I have ever played you could craft some of the best gear possible ingame, and even some better than you could get out of any instance. #7 I also will play Diablo. But i cannot in good faith abbandon RoM and all the work I have put into it.

About teh only one that I disagree with is #9 Seeing as there is always new content we cannot claim there are any "Endgamers" within RoM seeing as there is truly no "Endgame" content. What people mistakenly call endgame is pretty much filler until teh next new instance is opened to us.

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Tuesday, May 15th 2012, 10:36am

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530432]SW is in Beta, never forget that. You playtest basically. If you do not like the Beta of this feature, do not play it. There are tons of other features in this game, and an awesome community.


If a feature is in beta phase since 2-2.5 years then its really a fault of game designers and programmers.



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Hm, i could replace that with sick of hearing that all is the users fault and never the publishers fault. While I see where you are coming from, I truly wish some errors, flaws and bugs would be easier to fix. But this is no time of pointing fingers. Because it is never that easy and we never did do that. So I find this point rather .. odd. We can only assist you on your side for technical issues and such, and give advices.


Of course its not publishers/developers fault 100% of the time but when there is one they pretend its not their fault and everything works as intended. I can give you many examples where bugs could be fixed in 2-3lines and in lesser time than saying "its working as intended".

The game is free to play. It depends on what you want to spend more... money or time... and personally as a player i think a MMO-game should never be about winning but about having fun with friends.



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And all across this forum even opinions differ. Every class right now can be played to the fullest. Any flaws can be overcome even without the use of the IS, just with friends. So please name me examples, why a class can not be played without money. I gladly forward them.



Are you really playing ROM or just bluffing from memory of some other mmo.

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I am not sure i understand this point. Guilds are the essence of an MMO just as is the community. Please elaborate.



Guild features developed long before when level cap was 50 and got reworked since then, how long do u spend inside guild (other than removing debt) or better to ask do u even enter ur guild? If you have played any other mmo you know what i mean.

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Gladly forwarded but still i love to craft. But I agree the crafters in this game need a little push to existence.


Probably crafting is the worst feature of this game. It could be better if crafted items were somewhat close to gears/weapons from instances but not better. All you can get from crafting is low dura dirty with 1-2 stats which further requires cleaner to use it. Some items from Alchemy(again useless after lvl47)/cooking are needed regularly but cost to make them is higher than the item crafted.

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Any company that just cares about their paychecks and not their customers dies. I think this is a false statement and am sad that you feel that way. Still your assumption is wrong and misleading.


How many times publishers have listened to player base. Someone ever explained the increase in cost of CS items and making gameplay more and more dependent on CS with every new content. Where does this leads to?

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Adding new content is part of what keeps MMOs alive for endgamers and those who wish to be endgamer. Fixing old content and adding new content do not interfere with each other, as these are separate teams.


But adding new content at cost of more bugs and broken game is not acceptable. One GM on Macantacht clearly said when people asked for bug fixing "We do not have extra work force for both and currently we are working on new content". Every year events are repeated with the same bugs as previous years does that clears my point or need more?
And what is with those bugs who was reported as bugs and later after 1-2 years closed as "It is working as intended". How long do you think we must wait for a bug to get fixed. If new chapter can be made ready from scratch withing 5-6 months then why does solving a bug takes 1-2 years. And SW is still in beta since 2 years best example of incompetent developers.

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MMOs grow and develop as they grow. Be part of a guild, have friends, that is what an MMO is about. Together you can manage anything. MMOs are not single player games. You decide as player what you want to invest more, money or time. No effort you make is vain. A smaller player might have use of what you achieved if you outreached that limit.


Probably the only thing you said correctly in your post. :)

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Tuesday, May 15th 2012, 12:51pm

Reasons I quit -

1. Cost. Most prominent reason that led me to stop logging in. What I put into this game in a little over a year would have paid for 6 or so years in a subscription game. And I don't feel that a single cent was worth it. What's the point, when you're just going to have to spend even more in a few months to completely re-gear?

2. Boredom. I was happy at first with the inclusion of shell stats from minigames; it did allow new players to progress faster, as well as helping already-geared players re-gear once they got new pieces. Problem is, that's all new/gearing players do. Minigames, minigames, minigames. In between dailies, of course. When logging in feels like a chore and not something that's fun...that's when I know to stop bothering. Even instances after my daily chores couldn't make up for the monotony.

3. Broken classes. Seriously, how are some combos still just as broken as they were in the beginning of chapter 3? Frogster taunted us with the proverbial carrot over the class re-balancing of chapter 4...and come to find out, they don't touch most individual combos at all. There are still combos that are completely not viable for anything serious, and one or two that got broken in the rebalancing. Classes like W/D, W/P, W/M, R/P, R/D, D/R, R/M, and to a lesser extent, W/S and several others...remain broken. Some are viable for PvP, but are useless in PvE. These classes never got fixed. There are countless other classes that aren't outright broken, but just can't compete with the top combos. For a game that revolves around the flexibility of playstyles...there really isn't much flexibility at all. There's a handful of viable combos for serious endgaming, and if you're not one of those, you lose. Biggest developer flaw in this game, IMO.

4. Inflation. It took them way too long to even consider acting to stop the inflation that overran the servers as soon as chapter 4 was released. The cost of gearing through the CS is jarring enough alone, but the cost of gear itself in the AH was stupidly high. We were told for quite a while that Frogster (America, btw, not EU) couldn't do a single thing about the economy, and by the time they finally acted, it had gotten so much worse. While when I first started playing, I fondly remember grinding up millions of gold over time in Kalin's Shrine trash runs, doing that after chapter 4 was beyond ineffective, when you compared the time spent in KS grinding to the amount of money gained...and how much even a single item in the AH, nevermind diamonds, costed in gold.


Overall, I waited for a long time to see this game stop declining...and it never did. I finally gave up and left, along with most of my friends. I do hope this game gets better eventually, but I won't ever be returning, because all the reasons why I left are still problems--some even more so.

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Tuesday, May 15th 2012, 1:25pm

very poor customer support is the biggest reason
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Tuesday, May 15th 2012, 6:16pm

Another reason to leave todays special offer.

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Tuesday, May 15th 2012, 6:56pm

so much qq, wow, no1 is leaving, everytime there is a new chapter people stop playin for a bit, and when the new chapter comes out theres double the people...and if you people are qqing about prices thats just sad cuz everything is cheap as hell now. Also i think your on the wrong server, because reni is far from dead.
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Wednesday, May 16th 2012, 1:28am

Yes this is Stinkiee, he was once venerated by many from the mystical land of RoM hehe

Well it has been awhile since I last logged in, I think about 3 or 4 months now? and surprisingly I do not believe there is an ounce of withdrawn symptom. Anyhow there were many reasons that were taken into the ultimate consideration why I left this game. Although the game was a little tandem off from the main story line of my existence, I do not regret it a single bit. I made a great friends that I still speak to up to this very day, even though most of them have quit the game too.

~The game started out as an escape for me, but real life caught up, so I picked the latter
~Achieved everything this game had to throw at me
~I got bored, because some friends quit and it was just domino effect from there

PS: I still recalled; it took 6 secs to uninstall, but 6 hours to install lol. Anyhow everyone, enjoy your Chapter 5, while I study for Chapter 6 on multiple linear regression -_-.
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Wednesday, May 16th 2012, 2:55am

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so much qq, wow, no1 is leaving, everytime there is a new chapter people stop playin for a bit, and when the new chapter comes out theres double the people...and if you people are qqing about prices thats just sad cuz everything is cheap as hell now. Also i think your on the wrong server, because reni is far from dead.


Actually I do not see the QQing that you do. What I see here is an honest discussion that hopefully may get the attention of Frogster, or even Runewaker. I can understand players leaving due to Real Life issues (we all have them), I can even understand someone leaving because the actual cost of this game has gone beyond what they expected or wanted to pay.
That is what this post is for. I asked people why they decided to leave or are looking at leaving and so far noone has given any BS, just honest answers to an outright straight question. Keep it up guys this is quite incitefull.

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Wednesday, May 16th 2012, 6:03pm

The reason my whole guild left is because indigo is deader than dead, customer support is non existent, if you want to actually be f2p you have to settle for being marginal at best, and the biggest most glaring reason for leaving is we were all bored. We hit 70 finished our gear and then only had 90 min worth of entertainment a day from rom, 60 in siege and 30 on dailies. We found a new game to play starts with an A has been totally free so far but we might dabble with rom if the new chapter looks good if not we may never be back.

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Saturday, May 19th 2012, 3:53am

well you look at the weekend offers today ..... the normal puri pac special was always 5 puries 125 diamonds ..... then frogster EU took over .. you see we used to have frogster US and then there was these EU morons .... you see ... they couldnt make any money over there with runes of magic ... as a matter of fact they were loseing money!! ..... so the bosses over there at frogster said this is no good we are losing money and have to close one of the offices . So we are so @#$%^& smart were going to close the US office because they make money and were going to keep these morons here in EU on the job because there dumb as a bag of bricks and keep loseing us money ..... this is sure to work , what can go wrong with this plan? ....... so in a few short month the dumb fools over @ frogster EU have pretty much hammerd the nail in the RoM coffen ....to all you @ frogster EU ...I.. have a nice day you dumb %^&*%

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Saturday, May 19th 2012, 6:34am

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well you look at the weekend offers today ..... the normal puri pac special was always 5 puries 125 diamonds ..... then frogster EU took over .. you see we used to have frogster US and then there was these EU morons .... you see ... they couldnt make any money over there with runes of magic ... as a matter of fact they were loseing money!! ..... so the bosses over there at frogster said this is no good we are losing money and have to close one of the offices . So we are so @#$%^& smart were going to close the US office because they make money and were going to keep these morons here in EU on the job because there dumb as a bag of bricks and keep loseing us money ..... this is sure to work , what can go wrong with this plan? ....... so in a few short month the dumb fools over @ frogster EU have pretty much hammerd the nail in the RoM coffen ....to all you @ frogster EU ...I.. have a nice day you dumb %^&*%


I only skimmed over what you wrote (or tried to write >.>), and boy, did that hurt my brain. I'll be over in a corner in a near-coma state for a while, thanks. :)



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Saturday, May 19th 2012, 4:49pm

Panda's are not that great. They only stuck them in to satisify the Chinese. As far as the other one goes I play it but find RoM to be better. Cartoony graphics dont get my "damn cannot say what I want without getting trouble".
Unless some new and killer MMO comes out that blows all the others including RoM out of the water, I will keep coming back.
Yes dailies are a pain, minigames are a chore, and helping guildies has come down to hoping I can be online when the few left are online. Whatch when CH5 finaly gets here and most of us will be back in force.
Kinda surprised this post lasted as long as it has though. Maybe I hit on a winner this time.