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I am so old, I remember when chain letters were sent in email.

It'll have to wait until the weekend but I'll have a video done and uploaded by Sunday. I'll also donate $25 to the cause for being late.

There should be an in-game challenge that is similar. Would be funny if GF would add that during an update so that people can "drench" their toon and then nominate others. Talk about potential exposure for the game! Of course, that would require GF to actually want to get free promotion for the game...

GF should run a "charity" promotion like frogster did...

Awesome post Saito. Happy to see that.

http://www.infowars.com/ice-bucket-chall…research-cures/

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/als.asp

Haters everywhere I gooo!!

Quoted from "Borella"

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/als.asp

Borella, yours has the exact same numbers as mine

Mine says:

shows, 7% admin, 27 research, 14% fundraising, 32% educating/awareness, 19% patient and community services

Yours says:

only seven percent of their total fund intake goes to administration and salaries. Of the remaining 93 percent of funds, 32 percent is allocated to professional and public education, 28 percent goes directly to research, 19 percent is marked for patient and commmunity services, and 14 percent is allocated to fundraising.

Same no?


Pretty much the same numbers eh? That still means 27-28% ONLY goes to research... which is not actually research for a CURE... could be research for a TREATMENT. Treatment does NOT equal cure, there is a major difference. The actual amount put into research for a CURE, is not listed, but that is less than the 27-28% of research.

Lets also say that since the "ice bucket challenge" could also be considered "fundraising" the people involved could take a cut if not all of the 14%, making 21% easily funneled to personnel. Now 32% for Awareness... What was this "media fad", used for? Awareness! You are right! So some of or all of that 32% could ALSO be filtered to the challenge's personnel/stars/creators. So that means that 53% of the funds could be directed at personnel and still fall in this framework. The ONLY money that is not corruptible is the 19% that goes to direct patients and the research... if you consider research for a treatment as just as good as research for a cure... Which I don't. They said for a cure... yet they have already said 30+ million is already going to research grants for "research into treatments"... that again is not a cure.


Either way though... I don't see the point in posting another article that proves... AS well that only 28% is going to research.

The difference being yours is not just numbers, it's sensationalist propaganda with the intention of stopping people from donating to a valid charity. Also, all of those numbers are from the last year. We have no proof that the money raised through this challenge will be spent in exactly the same way as before, because it is a sudden influx of unexpected funds.

I'm sure the folks that actually have ALS are pretty happy with research for a treatment. Research for a treatment sure is a hell of alot better than research for nothing at all.

Quoted from "Dkjester"

Quoted from "Borella"

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/als.asp

Borella, yours has the exact same numbers as mine

Mine says:

shows, 7% admin, 27 research, 14% fundraising, 32% educating/awareness, 19% patient and community services

Yours says:

only seven percent of their total fund intake goes to administration and salaries. Of the remaining 93 percent of funds, 32 percent is allocated to professional and public education, 28 percent goes directly to research, 19 percent is marked for patient and commmunity services, and 14 percent is allocated to fundraising.

Same no?


Pretty much the same numbers eh? That still means 27-28% ONLY goes to research... which is not actually research for a CURE... could be research for a TREATMENT. Treatment does NOT equal cure, there is a major difference. The actual amount put into research for a CURE, is not listed, but that is less than the 27-28% of research.

Lets also say that since the "ice bucket challenge" could also be considered "fundraising" the people involved could take a cut if not all of the 14%, making 21% easily funneled to personnel. Now 32% for Awareness... What was this "media fad", used for? Awareness! You are right! So some of or all of that 32% could ALSO be filtered to the challenge's personnel/stars/creators. So that means that 53% of the funds could be directed at personnel and still fall in this framework. The ONLY money that is not corruptible is the 19% that goes to direct patients and the research... if you consider research for a treatment as just as good as research for a cure... Which I don't. They said for a cure... yet they have already said 30+ million is already going to research grants for "research into treatments"... that again is not a cure.


Either way though... I don't see the point in posting another article that proves... AS well that only 28% is going to research.

DK: if you dont want to donate, dont. If you want to provide information about where funds are going, dont provide sensationalized biased links.

Directed at no one in particular, I'd like to make one point. If you are interested in actively supporting this cause, over 90% of what's in that list should be perceived as a good thing. It's not money or time wasted. Increased education and awareness, patient and community services, fundraising to gather resources, and the research itself are all important. A cure is a great end goal, but there's no reason to limit assistance to that single area. Without getting too morbid, it's hard to say how close we are to cures for any number of illnesses and diseases, so while a cure would be great for those diagnosed in the future, it may not come in time for those diagnosed now. But, we can still help those people now in other ways that organizations like this are addressing. When you support a cause, it's not just about the long-term goals and who can benefit in the future; it's also about how you can help now in the present.

Please note that for the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge in particular, the purpose was only to raise awareness. Source. ("The challenge involves people getting doused with buckets of ice water on video, posting that video to social media, then nominating others to do the same, all in an effort to raise ALS awareness.") General donations to the cause are always welcomed; that money can go towards any of the areas that were listed. However, there is also an option to designate your donation "to be used solely for ALS research." Source. Anyone who donates can specify this along with any additional comments they may have.

Quoted from "Darwec"

DK: if you dont want to donate, dont. If you want to provide information about where funds are going, dont provide sensationalized biased links.

And on the same page if I see people talking about it... don't I have a right to input my opinion? You all have the right to post your opinion, and so do I.... Or are we living in a world where the right to free speech is gone already?

sensationalized biased links-- Did it outline the numbers correctly and accurately? Yes. Do you have proof that the salaries are not correct? If so please post them, instead of saying it is biased. It can be biased and still correct... now cant it?

Borella:

I do not have the "intention of stopping people from donating to a valid charity". Merely trying to inform people that it is NOT as effective as one may think. Almost all big time charities (almost all) are ways of making people rich while hiding behind the veil of "charity" and "non-profit". When you donate a bag of food to your local animal shelter... you know your money (100% of your money), is going to help the cause. The shelter isn't going to sell off some of the dog food to pay their own rent/bills/food/car payment. Would you rather give $100 dollars and have ALL $100 dollars go to the cause, or $7 go into someone's pocket, 14 toward "fundraising", etc?

People are under the misconception that they donate 100 dollars and all 100 dollars help the cause, it doesn't. Only way to inform someone that it is different is to bring it to light and inform them. Instead of allowing them to stay ignorant and in the dark. Also how many people think "corporations are bad", etc. Well all these charities are corporations, they have the same fat cats at the top getting rich off of others. Only different they do it with the claim that they are doing something good. If you don't want to be educated.. that is fine, ignore my post. However, I have a right to post it, I am correct on my analysis, and only those that open their eyes will see it. If I get to just ONE person, I have done my job in educating the world and making it a better place. Maybe they will give the 100 dollars buy food to give to a homeless person, or donate school supplies to their local schools for disadvantaged students.

This isn't even touching on that all it really is... is a fad. A facebook fad, which facebook itself is sad. But that is not a topic for this thread.

You sir, are nothing more than a hater. Always have to point out the bad, when sooo much good actually comes from raising money and awareness, but ofc, not much you can do sitting behind your computer.

while i am a huge proponent of charity work, donating money and hours myself, dk has an extremely valid point. some of the CEO's of the most popular "charities" have multi-million dollar salaries(not saying this is true with alsa).

all of these statistics are *supposed* to be public, so take a look before you judge.