Runes of Magic US / AU

They have been doing this for years. They gutted the whole Scout class years ago when the game was populated and expanding. The result was soon after that they had to close Frogster America. They are now going down to 2 servers to cover America and Australia after the latest nerfs . They never learn.

Well scouts have been nerfed 4 years ago? then Priest/scouts 2 years ago most of which because people QQ'ing about them being too OP, so i will blame the players. Now the class balancing is not perfect but there is nothing you can do about it, just hope Gameforge look into it with Runewaker.

I spend 50$ a month and craft/gather and farm, i do dailies, minis, events etc and get all that i need from the game without any issues. Yes i do run a lot of alts etc but that is to lower my cost in game. This argument about the game being expensive has been made so many times on the forums.

Wings in this game should be plussed once and only once, then when time to upgrade comes along, you get one attribute purifying stone, clean out all the stats and put the fresh ones on, i have been doing that for 2 years now. Also for gear, you do not have to upgrade every new level cap/stat, you can make do with that gear for 10 to 15 level if you know how to play your class, i still wear my Tatha's set level 80. I will end up cleaning the stat off, T8 and T9 all the pieces, since they are mainly all +18. This is a way to save some money with your gear.

Also compare the POM accessories level 90 to the level 77, the improvement from one or the other is so minimal, i cleaned off the stats from my OD 77 and restated. You gain to upgrade to level 90 POM 67.7 MATK and 11.3 points of crit, is this worth upgrading too/plussing/drillers etc? no it is not. You don't need to get the new shiny things when they come out, be a smart player and save some money ;-)




I would love the lowering of stuff in IS, it would be great but i doubt they will do much about it, EU side is making a lot more money than US side, i am pretty sure of that seeing the gear they have. Gameforge should make advertisement/ads etc to get more people into the game and lower the costs on everything, then the population would grow and costs would go down for all players.

Quoted from "zidlef"

I would love the lowering of stuff in IS, it would be great but i doubt they will do much about it, EU side is making a lot more money than US side, i am pretty sure of that seeing the gear they have. Gameforge should make advertisement/ads etc to get more people into the game and lower the costs on everything, then the population would grow and costs would go down for all players.

Zid, a year or two back EU got big puri packs for around 20 to 25 dias due to a mistake, so they were able to stock up on quite a bit of puris.

Zeri how is this relevant to this thread?? sometimes i wonder

The fact that you said "EU side is making a lot more money than US side, i am pretty sure of that seeing the gear they have." Aren't puris part of making gear? They stocked up with the mistake price, and thus, they can make higher tiered gear than we can for a lot cheaper. If EU isn't important for this thread, don't bring them up and expect people not to respond about it.

Wow Zeri, your brother was right the other day, fully agree with him. Dont read just one line in a paragraph, read the whole paragraph and how i was making a point. Who cares if they got free puris, we got free Curse runes and other stuff, stop derailing threads that people are trying to discuss please.

Here we are once again with "you didn't read my post" // 'well You weren't posting about the right thing' // "well stop derailing" // 'well You stop being off topic'.

I've seen it enough times to know how this goes. Shape up or cork it, folks. Thread is about frustrations over cost of gearing: back to it please.

Gearing is entirely too expensive and IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN. This is the biggest thing that stops new players from getting into the game and the biggest thing that causes existing players to leave it. It is SO expensive to be endgame and stay endgame that most people never manage it.

Then we get Gameforge doing idiotic stuff like gashas and the god dang stupid as all hell wheel of fortune trying to milk as much money as they can out of the playerbase and you see why the game has such a low population.

Quoted from "zidlef"

I spend 50$ a month

for that cost, you could get a new single player game every month, or pay for 2-3 subscription games...

the point is, the cost of RoM is disproportionately(this is an understatement) high for the content being offered, plain and simple.

Well i do buy other games but none are more fun than Runes of Magic, lots of things to do and the crafting system i like a lot. Item shop cost cut by 50% would make everyone happy and able to get more bang for their money. But then i guess we would get scarce diamonds sale also ;-(

i am not arguing that if you like it, you shouldn't pay for it, i am merely stating for the average "non-hardcore", taking their money to another game for 3x the content is where they will most likely get more enjoyment for the same cost.

it's all about RoI, and RoM's is pretty low.

Quoted from "zidlef"

EU side is making a lot more money than US side, i am pretty sure of that seeing the gear they have.

this bit honestly made me laugh the most, ofc they make more because EU has far more servers then the US side, if you compare the endgame gear of germans > us the difference is tiny, i see Magio and Zens gear videos on youtube, and its about the same level as the main germans, yes there are people with crazy gear, but i dont see how you can comment on the gear on the EU servers, go play on a german server and you might notice that.

The original post was not only about the cost of gearing up a character. It also included the problem with losing all the money when the character's class was nerfed. Players could stand the cost of the gear if it wasn't made useless by nerfs and adjustments made to other classes which made everything they spent useless.

Nerfing classes doesn't really make the gear useless. They nerf scouts that gear goes on rogues. They nerf r/s all the rogues went r/wd, then r/m when that become OP in the same gear. Mage wasn't very useful, they went w/m, now they're back to m/w. Same gear. If they nerfed mages today and suddenly made Warlocks super OP the mages could just use that gear on warlocks. They nerf warrior, the warriors go warden, or champion, etc. etc. They nerf knights, same gear works on wd/w. It's not like an entirely new set of gear is needed as long as at least one class of each gear type is viable.

Quoted from "Borella"

Nerfing classes doesn't really make the gear useless. They nerf scouts that gear goes on rogues. They nerf r/s all the rogues went r/wd, then r/m when that become OP in the same gear. Mage wasn't very useful, they went w/m, now they're back to m/w. Same gear. If they nerfed mages today and suddenly made Warlocks super OP the mages could just use that gear on warlocks. They nerf warrior, the warriors go warden, or champion, etc. etc. They nerf knights, same gear works on wd/w. It's not like an entirely new set of gear is needed as long as at least one class of each gear type is viable.

Sort of silly. Sure you can use the gear on another class if you just happen to have stable full of maxed out classes with enough tp to use all their skills and drop your current class. With enough money to buy a store full of ABLs. Of course if you want to add a class and level it up to max again and have the unlimited time and money. Speed leveling will often get you a character at a maxed level but not enough tp to play it. You will have gear that was good until the latest level upgrades but currently out of date.

Your example is badly broken as well. r/s is leather, as are r/m and r/wd. Somehow your next step is m/w which can't use leather only cloth and the dexterity and strength stats and pat stats are not that useful. Then you go to w/m where the leather and cloth can be used but are not the chain the class is designed for. While r'/s and s/r can use the same gear and stats Your argument that m/w and w/m can just doesn't work at all. Then you say that they nerf knights and then wardens can use the same gear.

The concept that a person is willing to play another class after the one the picked and wanted to play as nerfed is just absurd. If they wanted to play another class they would have created another class in the first place. When they nerf a class they are basically writing off all the people who spent time and money to create that character and telling them they don't want them playing the game anymore.

Quoted from "aardvark3"

The concept that a person is willing to play another class after the one the picked and wanted to play as nerfed is just absurd. If they wanted to play another class they would have created another class in the first place. When they nerf a class they are basically writing off all the people who spent time and money to create that character and telling them they don't want them playing the game anymore.

Totally agree with this, i started playing as a Knight/Priest, that is the class i loved and wanted to play. Then picked Scout as third class because i wanted options. I should never have been forced to lose my Priest/Scout but they did and destroyed the fun we had with it. Forced to choose warrior to remain viable in runs, i do get they need to make money but they don't have to force us to choose other classes. Stop nerfing classes and un nerf existing ones. Players should be able to play classes they love and feel comfortable with.

Quoted from "aardvark3"

Quoted from "Borella"

Nerfing classes doesn't really make the gear useless. They nerf scouts that gear goes on rogues. They nerf r/s all the rogues went r/wd, then r/m when that become OP in the same gear. Mage wasn't very useful, they went w/m, now they're back to m/w. Same gear. If they nerfed mages today and suddenly made Warlocks super OP the mages could just use that gear on warlocks. They nerf warrior, the warriors go warden, or champion, etc. etc. They nerf knights, same gear works on wd/w. It's not like an entirely new set of gear is needed as long as at least one class of each gear type is viable.

Sort of silly. Sure you can use the gear on another class if you just happen to have stable full of maxed out classes with enough tp to use all their skills and drop your current class. With enough money to buy a store full of ABLs. Of course if you want to add a class and level it up to max again and have the unlimited time and money. Speed leveling will often get you a character at a maxed level but not enough tp to play it. You will have gear that was good until the latest level upgrades but currently out of date.

Your example is badly broken as well. r/s is leather, as are r/m and r/wd. Somehow your next step is m/w which can't use leather only cloth and the dexterity and strength stats and pat stats are not that useful. Then you go to w/m where the leather and cloth can be used but are not the chain the class is designed for. While r'/s and s/r can use the same gear and stats Your argument that m/w and w/m can just doesn't work at all. Then you say that they nerf knights and then wardens can use the same gear.

The concept that a person is willing to play another class after the one the picked and wanted to play as nerfed is just absurd. If they wanted to play another class they would have created another class in the first place. When they nerf a class they are basically writing off all the people who spent time and money to create that character and telling them they don't want them playing the game anymore.

You obviously missed my point completely. I wasn't saying use leather on a mage. I was saying if one leather class gets nerfed, use the gear on another leather class. If one tank gets nerfed, use the same gear on another tank. If one cloth magical dps get nerfed, there are other magical dps to use that same gear on. Reading comprehension is good.

You can cry all you want about them nerfing classes and buffing others, but that hasn't happened in quite some time. The game is actually about as balanced as I've ever seen it right now. Some people just don't like picking the good classes.

Quoted from "zidlef"

Stop nerfing classes and un nerf existing ones. Players should be able to play classes they love and feel comfortable with.

game/class balance is a delicate thing. imho, it needs to always be tweaked to achieve this end.

some of the classes nerfed were rightly nerfed. if they were brought back to what they were in todays game, would they be OP? maybe, maybe not.

same goes for buffs, some of them seem justified and others don't. all depends on your perspective.

i, for one, and glad that they have at least taken a more refined adjustment perspective to class balance instead of using the nerf-bomb or the orbital-buff-ray.

agreed with borella, the game is not in it's most unbalanced state, both pvp and pve(i'd honestly argue pvp is more balanced than pve).

+6 should be free at vendor now.

+12 should be price of +6's

+16 should be price of +12's

+20 should be price of +16's and put in the IS ffs.