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Friday, February 8th 2013, 7:32pm

Rly? He made a 3rd Siege Compilation?

Indeed I did lol. Enjoy! Don't forget to crank dat sound, up dat quality, and set dat fullscreen lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY1CwEvnQSc
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Friday, February 8th 2013, 10:21pm

Awesome vid, I think someone was so excited that they accidently disliked the video lol. ;)
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Saturday, February 9th 2013, 1:29pm

Quoted from "Rukifellth2792;588219"

Indeed I did lol. Enjoy! Don't forget to crank dat sound, up dat quality, and set dat fullscreen lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY1CwEvnQSc



Great vid, was hoping to see the SW with select and disturbed.
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Saturday, February 9th 2013, 2:00pm

lol

Congrats at this excellent video showing the effects of using the lag exploit!
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Saturday, February 9th 2013, 6:54pm

I wish yesterday's siege was a better siege, damn Taiwanese new year!

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Saturday, February 9th 2013, 7:48pm

Those invisible flames on the island were very inconvenient, lol. Only critique I have, is that the video had a distinct lack of Quaffy =).

Also, how did you not crash from that last shot in the video, my computer melted looking at that.
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Saturday, February 9th 2013, 8:00pm

I was rather pleased that Cloaked showed sections of at least one siege against my guild (Fortuna, Osha), though I was a bit disappointed that he didn't include the tail end of our next to last siege with Theselectfew (he missed our last matchup, sad panda), where he complimented us for our defenses at one of the middle towers (left middle for him, right middle for us.) TSF tried a last-minute double tower cap that missed by *this much* (Maxwell Smart reference). We tied.

Going up against Theselectfew is always a challenge, and Cloaked is one of the most skilled Mages I've ever encountered. More compilations, plz!

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Saturday, February 9th 2013, 8:07pm

Quoted from "camagic;588287"

lol

Congrats at this excellent video showing the effects of using the lag exploit!


Care to clarify?
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Sunday, February 10th 2013, 3:06am

nice vid and thx for puttin me in the other vid :) i is a star now.....
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Sunday, February 10th 2013, 1:49pm

Quoted from "Rukifellth2792;588306"

Care to clarify?


It is not allowed to talk about how to achieve this, but it can be identified by multiple incidators in the video.
43 sec someone has you targeted showing a null picture
44 sec the memory error usage warning.
1:34 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
1:34 you show others as null pictures
2:38 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
3:15 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
3:18 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
4:02 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
4:19 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
4:47 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:19 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:25 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:31 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:36 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:40 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:44 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:47 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:56 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
6:47 npc has you targeted showing a null picture
6:54 you targeting yourself showing a null picture
7:05 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
7:11 you have someone targeted showing null picture
7:20 you target yourself showing a null picture
7:28 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
7:55 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
8:10 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
8:47 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:13 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:24 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:35 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:46 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:51 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:56 you target yourself showing a null picture
10:05 you target yourself showing a null picture
10:33 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
10:56 npc has you targeted showing a null picture
11:16 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
11:43 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
11:51 you target yourself showing a null picture
11:55 npc has you targeted showing a null picture
13:10 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
13:43 someone has you targeted showing a null picture

There are also other indicators, such as all the other players that their toon's graphical representation shows just a floating name.

No need to reply and defend yourself(or anyone else defend you, since only those guilty of using this method feel the need to). You all can sit secure in the fact(based on your damagae output, hp, aggs, other stuff) that you have generated a lot of sales for frogster/gameforge, hence they will suck up to you and not enforce the TOS.

Have a nice day :cool:.
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Sunday, February 10th 2013, 4:47pm

Quoted from "camagic;588378"

It is not allowed to talk about how to achieve this, but it can be identified by multiple incidators in the video.
43 sec someone has you targeted showing a null picture
44 sec the memory error usage warning.
1:34 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
1:34 you show others as null pictures
2:38 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
3:15 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
3:18 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
4:02 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
4:19 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
4:47 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:19 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:25 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:31 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:36 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:40 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:44 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:47 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:56 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
6:47 npc has you targeted showing a null picture
6:54 you targeting yourself showing a null picture
7:05 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
7:11 you have someone targeted showing null picture
7:20 you target yourself showing a null picture
7:28 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
7:55 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
8:10 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
8:47 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:13 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:24 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:35 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:46 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:51 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:56 you target yourself showing a null picture
10:05 you target yourself showing a null picture
10:33 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
10:56 npc has you targeted showing a null picture
11:16 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
11:43 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
11:51 you target yourself showing a null picture
11:55 npc has you targeted showing a null picture
13:10 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
13:43 someone has you targeted showing a null picture

There are also other indicators, such as all the other players that their toon's graphical representation shows just a floating name.

No need to reply and defend yourself(or anyone else defend you, since only those guilty of using this method feel the need to). You all can sit secure in the fact(based on your damagae output, hp, aggs, other stuff) that you have generated a lot of sales for frogster/gameforge, hence they will suck up to you and not enforce the TOS.

Have a nice day :cool:.


What's a "Null picture?"
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Sunday, February 10th 2013, 5:28pm

lol at memory usage error being a lag exploit.
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Sunday, February 10th 2013, 5:31pm

So if I understand you correctly, anytime the portrait is black without a face, that's undeniable proof of using a lag exploit (assuming thats what you mean by null picture)? Seriously, that just happens and the stupid memory message pops up no matter what. By your definition, literally everyone playing RoM is using a lag exploit, lol.

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No need to reply and defend yourself(or anyone else defend you, since only those guilty of using this method feel the need to). You all can sit secure in the fact(based on your damagae output, hp, aggs, other stuff) that you have generated a lot of sales for frogster/gameforge, hence they will suck up to you and not enforce the TOS.

Have a nice day :cool:.


And that's a stupid thing to say "Dont dare try to disagree with me or defend against my wild accusations because only guilty people do that"
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Sunday, February 10th 2013, 5:52pm

Quoted from "camagic;588378"


9:24 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:35 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:46 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:51 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:56 you target yourself showing a null picture
10:05 you target yourself showing a null picture
10:33 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
10:56 npc has you targeted showing a null picture
11:16 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
11:43 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
11:51 you target yourself showing a null picture
11:55 npc has you targeted showing a null picture


All of these were against my guild btw. Cloaked didn't appear lagged at all during those sieges to me, and none of my guildies said he was lagged either. Running and jumping around like a crazy acrobatic madman, perhaps, but not lagged.
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Sunday, February 10th 2013, 6:19pm

You do realise that whenever someone targets you, you can see them with a black box by their name? o.O

I am pretty sure you even make it send a message (from the client) using one of the API commands in RoM. Anything you see in the GUI (the actual game) can be given to you through the API.

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Sunday, February 10th 2013, 6:35pm

Quoted from "camagic;588378"

It is not allowed to talk about how to achieve this, but it can be identified by multiple incidators in the video.
43 sec someone has you targeted showing a null picture
44 sec the memory error usage warning.
1:34 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
1:34 you show others as null pictures
2:38 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
3:15 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
3:18 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
4:02 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
4:19 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
4:47 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:19 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:25 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:31 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:36 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:40 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:44 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:47 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
5:56 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
6:47 npc has you targeted showing a null picture
6:54 you targeting yourself showing a null picture
7:05 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
7:11 you have someone targeted showing null picture
7:20 you target yourself showing a null picture
7:28 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
7:55 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
8:10 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
8:47 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:13 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:24 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:35 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:46 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:51 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
9:56 you target yourself showing a null picture
10:05 you target yourself showing a null picture
10:33 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
10:56 npc has you targeted showing a null picture
11:16 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
11:43 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
11:51 you target yourself showing a null picture
11:55 npc has you targeted showing a null picture
13:10 someone has you targeted showing a null picture
13:43 someone has you targeted showing a null picture

There are also other indicators, such as all the other players that their toon's graphical representation shows just a floating name.

No need to reply and defend yourself(or anyone else defend you, since only those guilty of using this method feel the need to). You all can sit secure in the fact(based on your damagae output, hp, aggs, other stuff) that you have generated a lot of sales for frogster/gameforge, hence they will suck up to you and not enforce the TOS.

Have a nice day :cool:.


How stupid are you? Like.. seriously. How many times were you dropped on your head as a child? These aren't "Lag exploits", these are "This is what happens in RoM siegewar because RoM coding stinks".

Disappearance of bodies can happen to everyone, it's not caused by a "lag exploit" it's caused by the game sucking.

EVERYONE gets the memory usage error... how the heck is that an indicator of someone using a lag exploit? RoM has memory leaks.. we've all known this since Chapter 1.

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Sunday, February 10th 2013, 9:57pm

Quoted from "camagic;588378"

It is not allowed to talk about how to achieve this, but it can be identified by multiple incidators in the video.
43 sec someone has you targeted showing a null picture
44 sec the memory error usage warning.

<snip>

There are also other indicators, such as all the other players that their toon's graphical representation shows just a floating name.

No need to reply and defend yourself(or anyone else defend you, since only those guilty of using this method feel the need to). You all can sit secure in the fact(based on your damagae output, hp, aggs, other stuff) that you have generated a lot of sales for frogster/gameforge, hence they will suck up to you and not enforce the TOS.

Have a nice day :cool:.


I went back and took a look at the first 45 seconds of the video. Considering that the toon targeted by Cloakedschemer was *me*, I had some interest in your first listings. The siege in question was in late December or early January, and in point of fact, was within the first minute or so of that particular siege.

Run the video back to approximately the 33 second point and you'll notice that I'm still alive (damaged, HA activated for immunes), and my "targeted picture" is quite normal.

Allow it to run forward until the *first* time that I croak (SB in effect) and yes, my "picture" turns dark (black). Have you considered that i was *dead* at that point? Run it forward again until I rez (as Cloaked expected I would) and when I die a second time, my "picture" stays there, in all its mediocre glory. :D

I attribute the difference to something that everyone encounters "naturally" in siege: client-to-server-to-arena server-to server-to-client lag. Yes, even someone with an excellent InterCatzWebz connection encounters that kind of lag in siege. (They encounter it in the Arenas, but rarely mention it, unless they get pwned repeatedly or disconnect.)

I have good to very good connections. Cloakedschemer seems to have at least as good a connection as I do, 22FPS and 62ms latency (ping), as shown in the video. My framerates are similar or slightly higher. That's due mainly to my in-game video settings, and those framerates vary during the course of siege, depending on how many animations are being processed.

It's easy to do a forensic study of a video post-siege. It's not quite so easy to do the same study *during* siege, as things tend to be a bit hectic (in my experience) and most people simply don't have time to do it when the action is heavy and the spells are flying about, willy-nilly. You're welcome to give it a go, however. I'll cheerfully kill you whilst you're distracted.

I'd suggest that you find better and more substantial "evidence" regarding "lag hacks", or other shenannigans, before spouting off about them, mmkay?

Last comment: Instead of carping about how poorly siege works, keep in mind that RoM was not originally designed to have it in the first place. I imagine some bright people at RW thought up the concept and used what they had at hand--the Arena server software--and built onto it. Overall, I think they did a brilliant job, considering what they had to work with.

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Monday, February 11th 2013, 5:17am

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Disappearance of bodies can happen to everyone, it's not caused by a "lag exploit" it's caused by the game sucking.

EVERYONE gets the memory usage error... how the heck is that an indicator of someone using a lag exploit? RoM has memory leaks.. we've all known this since Chapter 1.


^ Agree. How anyone can think these things automatically mean someone's "lag exploiting" is beyond me. Hell, if that were the case I'd have to report half my guild for "lag exploiting" against me. Sometimes bodies disappear and sometimes they don't; friendly or enemy, doesn't matter, it happens to anyone. Not to mention, most guilds relog right before siege to avoid any excess lag...and this still happens at random, regardless. There's only so much that we, as players, can do to cut down on siege lag.

Everyone knows siege sucks. Everyone knows it's the worst coded part of this game. Everyone expects bugs and glitches to happen there, because they do. Not everything is a hack. In fact, in RoM siege, most things aren't. They're just RoM. Blame the devs.

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Monday, February 11th 2013, 5:42am

I see a couple of people that know about adding lag to their advantage, and are defending it. Good job at identifying yourselves. Anyone else want to identify themselves?
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Monday, February 11th 2013, 5:51am

Quoted from "camagic;588437"

I see a couple of people that know about adding lag to their advantage, and are defending it. Good job at identifying yourselves. Anyone else want to identify themselves?


I see that you have identified yourself as a troll and have no reply to the posters showing that your argument had many flaws. Good job making me waste my time replying to you.

Still pretty childish to assume that anyone who disagrees with you (and for good reasons) is an exploiter, but go ahead and continue your witch hunt.
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