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Friday, August 21st 2015, 9:00pm

I agree it's necessary Kalvan. If say reni gets merged into Artemis and people lose their diamonds, even more people will get pissy and rage quit. Though, I feel it is taking longer than it should. Unless they are doing every single account individually. :/
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Saturday, August 22nd 2015, 5:42pm


I agree it's necessary Kalvan. If say reni gets merged into Artemis and people lose their diamonds, even more people will get pissy and rage quit. Though, I feel it is taking longer than it should. Unless they are doing every single account individually. :/
Krayden has a point, I'd rather the time be taken to do it right than to rush it and have four million bugs and mistakes that were made.. I understand many players that have came back have once again quit because the merge is taking so long, but they will (or at least most of the ones on Artemis will) come back once the server merge has officially been completed.
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Saturday, August 22nd 2015, 6:46pm

Previous couple of posts are missing the point. WHY NOT LET THE CONSUMER KNOW YOUR ACTUAL PLANS? and not just talk a big game with no "timetable" behind it. I know this isn't the GMs job, but to think a company doesn't release it's plans to it's consumers is very troubling for me.

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Saturday, August 22nd 2015, 7:30pm

Because they know push comes to shove, those of us who have been here the longest, will not leave, regardless of how bad it gets. We haven't left yet, and those of us left must be buying enough diamonds (though not anymore should they really push their promo to 3am) to turn a profit.

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Saturday, August 22nd 2015, 9:04pm

Because they know push comes to shove, those of us who have been here the longest, will not leave, regardless of how bad it gets. We haven't left yet, and those of us left must be buying enough diamonds (though not anymore should they really push their promo to 3am) to turn a profit.
German spending for the rest of us probably lol
Some of them pushing over 190k patk unbuffed with no title over there.
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Saturday, August 22nd 2015, 9:06pm

I don't believe the 'conspiracy theorists' are being that outlandish in not trusting this company. Personally, I have no idea what they are planning, but I can easily comprehend why there is not much trust in them.

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Saturday, August 22nd 2015, 9:18pm

Because they know push comes to shove, those of us who have been here the longest, will not leave, regardless of how bad it gets. We haven't left yet, and those of us left must be buying enough diamonds (though not anymore should they really push their promo to 3am) to turn a profit.
German spending for the rest of us probably lol
Some of them pushing over 190k patk unbuffed with no title over there.

iirc, last time i made the conversion, it was actually more expensive (real money -> diamonds) in germany.
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Monday, August 24th 2015, 8:28am

When I was wee weetle Rusty growing up in Russia, I remember a proverb - "дуракам половину работы не показывают". It means "never let fools see half-finished work".

It never fails to be true. I remember when Swag broke that rule during the original Owenstein modification. He ended up so regretting it.
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Monday, August 24th 2015, 2:35pm

Management by the how to grow mushrooms philosophy.

"Keep them in the dark and feed them a lot of bull____" .

A great crop of mushrooms has been raised here!

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Monday, August 24th 2015, 9:42pm

When I was wee weetle Rusty growing up in Russia, I remember a proverb - "дуракам половину работы не показывают". It means "never let fools see half-finished work".

It never fails to be true. I remember when Swag broke that rule during the original Owenstein modification. He ended up so regretting it.
While you make a good point, I don't really think most players care overly much about all the details. I think many players would be happy with just regular posts that said something to the effect of "hey, we're still working on it, it's still tracking, we haven't forgotten you". Something more than once a month or more with an "oh by the way, we've decided to do something else first" - don't call us we'll call you - type of post.

I liken it to the weekly posting about maintenance. I don't think there are many players who don't know when maintenance is. This is because every week there is a post saying the server will be going down for maintenance. The details aren't discussed most of the time. Sure, sometimes a patch is announced or extended maintenance but again, nothing that is too exact or having the potential to blow up on them.


Players just understandably want to be kept in the loop to reassure them they aren't making a bad investment of their time/money/effort.
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Monday, August 24th 2015, 10:07pm

The problem with proverbs is that you can do anything you want and then find the appropriate proverb/saying to back up one's action, no matter what that action entails. :)

While I agree with Tuulikki, I suspect the problem is in some ways worse, for even with updates periodically, would people really trust what they hear? Maybe and maybe not.

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Monday, August 24th 2015, 10:34pm

you can only say "we're working on it" so many times until silence might have been preferable.
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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 2:06pm

I totally agree with Rustyx on his quote. The other issue i have is for years i have asked them to build up excitement, tease us with things to come but they only tease us with very limited results. They haven't done 1% promotion/ads for the game, so no new player can be expected to come play with us. They don't even advertise ROM on their Facebook but all other games of theirs do, for ROM they direct you to ROM Facebook page which is also run by the GM's, so pointless to get info since they are not given any ;-(

Before putting more stuff out, features or whatever, how about they put their money where their mouth is and advertise the game?? Would be nice to have Gameforge, NOT THE GM'S!!!! they are only here to give me vacations lol ;-), tell us exactly what is planned for the future. And please don't send the Pit, that one lost all credibility for me, but someone that works in the office and actually has useful info of where the game is standing in their plans as a company.


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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 7:11pm

The best advertising they can do at this point is to improve the overall gaming experience. Do that and old players will come back and new ones will come and stick around. Otherwise what is there to advertise? An older game with buggy mechanics and a diminished player base?

Right now the lack of adjusting the game mechanics to the current state of the game is killing it more than anything else. Staying the course, continuing to do the same thing and expecting things to change in a positive way is just insane. MMORPG players are some of the most resilient and optimistic people on the planet. They are generally accepting of quite a bit in game that they simply would not tolerate in real life but everyone has their limits. So ya, fix the gaming experience – old players will return and new players will join and stick around. Then and only then would it make any sense to advertise RoM in the more traditional sense.
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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 8:01pm

Previous couple of posts are missing the point. WHY NOT LET THE CONSUMER KNOW YOUR ACTUAL PLANS? and not just talk a big game with no "timetable" behind it. I know this isn't the GMs job, but to think a company doesn't release it's plans to it's consumers is very troubling for me.

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Huh. Perhaps you missed Azathors post from Tuesday, May 26th 2015, 7:31am.

I'll link it for you here: Future server merge plans

And, so you don't have to click to go there, I can copy-paste the relevant info here:

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In future, you won't only be able to purchase Diamonds for one server, but instead they will be stored centrally on your account for all servers. Each of your characters from within one region will thus be able to use your balance.
However, to ensure that everything is properly checked and tested, we don't expect this development to happen before autumn.
(note: certain text enlarged to show emphasis by Aqualink)

As I've posted before, it is a complicated development process. This game or the payment system was not setup this way and therefore will need to be rewritten completely in some cases to accommodate the change. All we can ask is for patience, for it is a longer process. Popular rumors are true here, Rome was not built in a day (take that in your proverbs and shove it :P).

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Wednesday, August 26th 2015, 1:32am

Previous couple of posts are missing the point. WHY NOT LET THE CONSUMER KNOW YOUR ACTUAL PLANS? and not just talk a big game with no "timetable" behind it. I know this isn't the GMs job, but to think a company doesn't release it's plans to it's consumers is very troubling for me.

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Huh. Perhaps you missed Azathors post from Tuesday, May 26th 2015, 7:31am.

I'll link it for you here: Future server merge plans

And, so you don't have to click to go there, I can copy-paste the relevant info here:

Quoted

In future, you won't only be able to purchase Diamonds for one server, but instead they will be stored centrally on your account for all servers. Each of your characters from within one region will thus be able to use your balance.
However, to ensure that everything is properly checked and tested, we don't expect this development to happen before autumn.
(note: certain text enlarged to show emphasis by Aqualink)

As I've posted before, it is a complicated development process. This game or the payment system was not setup this way and therefore will need to be rewritten completely in some cases to accommodate the change. All we can ask is for patience, for it is a longer process. Popular rumors are true here, Rome was not built in a day (take that in your proverbs and shove it :P).



lol GM posts something from May. 3 months ago...

That's what the issue is. Give us more info on an actual timeline/detail of the timeline, not just small details or lets just all play the guessing game. Saying, "it is a longer process" helps no one and just makes assumptions even worse. Why not give a date, if you can't meet that date then we can all understand at least why. Not just "oh it isn't ready, be patient, keep buying diamonds, we'll give you an update 6 months from now. kthanksbye" because that's what it's boiled down to.

Of course, I'm not saying to give up so much info on something so delicate as accounts/diamond purchases, but I know there are pieces that can be said without fear of something terrible happening.

BEFORE AUTUMN MEANS SUMMERTIME. Or am I crazy? Summer's almost over lol

You say Rome wasn't built in a day, and I truly live by that, but this seems a little more like the fall of Rome.

"I'd rather have the ugly truth, than a pretty lie."

"A pretty lie keeps you in business though."

Little 'sayings' from Texas, since we quoting stuff. :P

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Wednesday, August 26th 2015, 1:50am

don't expect this development to happen before autumn
Meaning it won't happen this summer and may happen sometime in the future after that.

With Autumn (Fall) starting in September this clarification basically lets us know the merger won't happen in the next week.
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Wednesday, August 26th 2015, 2:29am

I doubt people here have expected Rome to be built in a day. Probably more concerned that if the building of Rome had been under this management team, to this day, we'd still be getting updates about it's impending construction. :)

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Wednesday, August 26th 2015, 2:37am

However, to ensure that everything is properly checked and tested, we don't expect this development to happen before Autumn.
An interpreter could say... there is no year mentioned. So, that 'Autumn' (or Fall) reference could really mean next year. The assumer could say... Autumn of this year (2015), which starts on Sept 23rd where they still have ~1 month left.
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Wednesday, August 26th 2015, 6:48am

That's what the issue is. Give us more info on an actual timeline/detail of the timeline...

Information that you request is going to have as much impact on your life as knowing when I last picked my nose and when I will be doing so next.

Aqualink has made it quite clear what Gameforge gave us as info, however vague that may have been.