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Noob question.

I was playing with the Transmuter a little and made 3 Tier 3 stones. When I put those into the AT along with a Tier 1 weapon it said it would put it to Tier 3. Would I be missing out on anything by going from 1 to 3 as opposed to 1, 2, and then 3?

Nope -- it's perfectly fine to "jump" tiers to the ultimate level you want it to be.

Hi all,

Are the tiered supply lists something that can be purchased from an npc?

Yes; fusion stones from the vendors in Varanas and Obsidian, cloth belts in Obsidian.

Quoted from "jsalemi;170383"

Yes; fusion stones from the vendors in Varanas and Obsidian, (tier 3) cloth belts in Obsidian.

The underlined above is critical.

I spent some time yesterday making a tier 2 2h axe into a tier 3. The axe was +6 to all attributes when I got it, and I added three other stats to it when I tiered it (hp/sta/defense). It was surprisingly nice, good damage, and reasonable stats for what I put into it cash wise. It was a green though, and not high dura. I ended up looting a 108 dura tier 2 2h axe with the same base damage, and a nice physical attack green stat on it (+25 I think). This is when I started thinking I had a clue. I decided to 'steal' the stats off my newly made tier 3 axe by transmuting it with a fusion stone carrying the same three original stats I added. I would then make up two same stat mana stones for the tiering. I figured the fusion stone should pick up the +6/all, and when I tiered up the new axe with the modded stone and two same stat fusion stones, I'd end up with FIVE relatively nice stats on the new axe, plus higher durability. It all worked perfectly...other than one thing:

A fusion stone and a 'tiered'/lower level (23) tier 3 weapon makes a tier 2 mana stone =/. I didn't catch this until after I accepted the combination. I looked, saw all my stats, and clicked 'ok' lol.

So I went ahead and made another same stat mana stone, and tiered the weapon up, but now I'm sitting on a tier 2 mana stone with decent stats that would slide right onto my freakin axe...and nothing to do with the thing lol. I think it would be sort of cost prohibitive to tier up that tier 2 stone to tier 3, then make two more same stat tier 3's, and hope that it would work to transmute the +6/all to the axe. Tiering it up to a tier 4 mana stone would probably be even worse. If you guys could tell me how to go about this though (tiering up the mana stones)...I suppose I could work on it as an experiment of sorts though (Edit~ Scratch this...I found this info...now to decide whether to make a tier 3 or tier 4...and if it's even worth it).

Anyhow, hope you guys can learn from my small example. I either missed it in the original guide, or it didn't say...but you can't use a 'made' tier 3 item, or a lower level (I think the cutoff is like 36??? Confirmation???) tier 3 item to make a tier 3 mana stone =/.

Cris

Well i gues they don't want people just buying say 3 tier 6 staves to make a tier 7 stone. which with the prices of old SOA's i see around would be Alot cheeper.
Would be nice though.

Great post, But what about Armor/Clothing? I'm a Mage/Priest, you know..squishy. I need help in the protection department

It's rarely worth tiering up armor, since you want to put your best stats on the stuff you wear. Tiering is best for weapons, where the damage is most critical, and the stats on the weapon don't matter as much.

Quoted from "Rocket48;171051"

Great post, But what about Armor/Clothing? I'm a Mage/Priest, you know..squishy. I need help in the protection department

The exact same can be done with armor as with a weapon, however I recomend, especially as a m/p or p/m, that you work on making your weapon the best it can be. You dont have to worry about being squishy to much if everything dies before it gets to you or right afterwards. If the mob doesnt die in 2 hits from your nice higher tier weapon, a magic shield will take the rest of the hits while you blast it one or two more times, so you never actually get hit.

Hope this helps.

Peace.

Saved and ty =)

When you combine 3 mana stones of the same tier, does each mana stone have to have the same stats, or can they all be different ?

Quoted from "deathstalker908;176548"

When you combine 3 mana stones of the same tier, does each mana stone have to have the same stats, or can they all be different ?

Either way works. It doesn't matter for dirty tiering but if you're trying to keep certain stats, you would want them to be the same.

Quoted from "Rameses;176555"

Either way works. It doesn't matter for dirty tiering but if you're trying to keep certain stats, you would want them to be the same.

Ahh, cool. Thanks!

technicly what he means would be, you can either get a good t4 mana stone by merging 3 good tier 3 stones, or a Lv.50 purple item,
but now with the new Lv.55 cap you can get a tier 4 stone by just useing a Lv.52 blue plus item (i think its lV.52 and blue might be Lv.52 and green plus) to get a tier 4 item.
nice guilde this even helped me out a little grats

UGH!!! I accidently used one of my golden hammer thingies on my helm or necklace cant remember...can you use the arcane transmutor on armor? it has like 140/111 lol.... im sucha newby...i'll get over it though

Hammers are easy to get more of (you can even use Phirius Tokens for more).

Arcane Transmutor would only destroy the armor and pull the green/yellow stats into a fusion stone, no gain there probably unless you got end-game gear.

-Griffindorph

Ok, what if you have a T3 weapon that you've filled up with yellow stats. What happens to the stats on the mana stones when you tier that weapon up to level 4? Do you still have to plan what stats are on the T4 stones because they'll overwrite stats on the weapon? Or is it the case that once an item's "full" of stats, they're unchangeable and you can just combine T4 stones with any old stats to tier up because it won't affect the outcome?

Quoted from "Ormgeirr;179818"

Ok, what if you have a T3 weapon that you've filled up with yellow stats. What happens to the stats on the mana stones when you tier that weapon up to level 4? Do you still have to plan what stats are on the T4 stones because they'll overwrite stats on the weapon? Or is it the case that once an item's "full" of stats, they're unchangeable and you can just combine T4 stones with any old stats to tier up because it won't affect the outcome?

The only way I know to tier up a weapon that's already statted (with the intent of keeping the stats) is to use purified fusion stones. That would be...pricey. The only way the stats on the T4 stones would overwrite the stats on the weapon, is if they were 'lesser' stats. You get the six lowest stats any time you combine anything in the transmuter.

I had been statting my weapons, and only tiering them to 3. This was a nice boost in damage, but I found it's a lot less expensive in cost (if not in charges), and substantially superior in damage boosting, to just dirty tier to 4.

Hi all,

I've looked around in the forums and checked online, but seem to be unable to find an exact formula for the tiering process in calculating damage. Assuming I had a 80/80 dura weapon with 350 damage and a 115/115 dura weapon with 310 damage. Both Tier 3s. If I tier them both to tier 5, which one would produce more damage? Is the 115 dura a given 20%, which means instead of 310, it's actually 310*1.2 = 372?

If someone could provide an actual calculation, that would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Quoted from "lupac;181618"

Is the 115 dura a given 20%, which means instead of 310, it's actually 310*1.2 = 372?

Yes, anything 101 and above adds a 20% bonus, same as hammering a lower-dura item. So your calculation is correct.

Tiering adds 10% per level of the base damage, so each tier would add 31 damage on top of the 310, or 35 on top of the 350. So the first weapon would be 420 base, the second would be 372 base. The over-dura would give you 20% of the new base, for a total of 446 damage. But if you hammer the first weapon, you'd have 504 damage. Your call which you'd rather do, but I'd tier the first and use the hammer for better damage.