Runes of Magic US / AU

thank you verry much for the thread address...was verry helpfull and i do believe im going to be doing alot more dailys from now on lol

I have been saving dropped weapons that have level 3 stats, like +6STR or +6DEX. None have more than one stat, I must not be on the same maps as the rest of you.


So, since my spare weapons only have one enhanced attribute (excluding any runes I may have placed in them), would there be any reason to buy the 12K gold Fusion stone?


I suspect I should only purchase the 5K gold Fusion stone, but would I get the level 3 stat like +6STR or would it end up as +3STR or something else completely random
Can I add up processed Fusion stones of the same attribute and combine into a destination object, or should I only use processed fusion stones with different attributes.


Thanks in advance. I just want to make sure of things before I spend my game gold.

Nice Ty for the guide has helped me a ton... Had no clue on how poeple were making there gear like that till read this guide lol

congrats folks, this is the best post on this form that ive sen yet, had a lot of questions til i found it. Thanks a ton!

This is another one that has lots of good info on the AT:

Link

right, and the mana stone is just a stone. not a stone with a "leather" prerequiset (sp)
feel free to tear up anything you cant use to transform into something you can. recycle. save the planet.

A question was asked but not answered as the OP contradicts himself about the item combined with the three mana stones inheriting its tier.

In one place he says it will and then says under "tip" that it won't.

I "tested" this last night and put three tier 2 mana stones in with a tier I belt and it said it would make it a tier 2 belt.

I just want to confirm this and make sure there are no "known" restrictions on this.

So bottom line question is can I use a Tier I item with Tier 4 mana stones and the resulting item will be Tier 4 with no downgrading of stats or anything correct?

edit: And I know that the mana stone inherits the level of the item used to make it in the first place

Quoted from "Airow;81375"

A question was asked but not answered as the OP contradicts himself about the item combined with the three mana stones inheriting its tier.

In one place he says it will and then says under "tip" that it won't.

I "tested" this last night and put three tier 2 mana stones in with a tier I belt and it said it would make it a tier 2 belt.

I just want to confirm this and make sure there are no "known" restrictions on this.

So bottom line question is can I use a Tier I item with Tier 4 mana stones and the resulting item will be Tier 4 with no downgrading of stats or anything correct?

edit: And I know that the mana stone inherits the level of the item used to make it in the first place

It should be correct as you stated it.

The final piece would inherit the tier of the mana stones used to produce it.

For instance:
3x Tier 4 Mana Stone + Tier 1 Equipment Piece = Tier 4 Equipment Piece
3x Tier 2 Mana Stones + Tier 1 Equipment Piece = Tier 2 Equipment Piece

Here's a dumb follow up question.

If that belt was level 15 and I am level 40 and it is now tier 4 can I wear it?

Does the level requirement change with the tier?

Quoted from "Airow;81476"

Here's a dumb follow up question.

If that belt was level 15 and I am level 40 and it is now tier 4 can I wear it?

Does the level requirement change with the tier?

You should be able to still wearing it even though you're level 40. The level of the item remains the same, just the tier changes.

The level requirement is just the min level needed for one to be able to use it barring any other restrictions.

Perfect thanks. Man those of us that started on release are so far behind the curve. Think I finally have it figured out.

WOW!
I think I am starting to get this whole thing.

So you buy fusion stone from the vendors to rip magic from items, then use the resulting mana stones to embed the magic into new items.

What I am still a little confused about is why the various levels (and costs) of fusion stones. If the item I am trying to rip magic from only has a +6 wisdom on it, wouldn't the fusion stone only rip that from it and nothing else?

What is the talk about 3 different bonuses (some being known and others being random)?

Maybe I'll just have to try and see how it turns out.

You can buy 3 kinds of mana stones from the vendors:
1) 2 known stats and 1 random stat
2) 1 known stat and 2 random stats
3) all random stats

And of course, there's the purified stones from the CS (and also in your level 35+ bags) that have no stats at all.

Depending on what you're trying to do, it may be important to know as many of the stats as possible, so you can match them and have a better chance of transferring the stats you really want from the items you're striping them from. I've found that there are a lot of fusion stones in the AH, with all stats known, and in many cases selling for less than what the vendors sell them for. These are very good for matching stats as much as possible.

Aha!

I just figured out how these fusion stones work. One thing the OP may have forgotten to mention, is that while fusion stones come with three stats on them (whether some of them are known before you buy them or not) when you use them to rip stats from an item, the resulting mana stone will have 4 stats (the three stats of the original fusion stone + the stats you just ripped from the item).

Thus lies the crux of the matter...

When I went to the vendor in Varanas to buy some fusion stones the only ones available were ones that had level 1 stat boosts (such as a +3 intelligence, or +3 dexterity). Some of the items I had in my bag had higher level bonuses (I had a hammer with a +25 hp bonus on it).

The dilemma comes when you combine mana stones with the item you want to enchant...

Since you use 3 mana stones and your item, the transmutor has to choose from 12 different stats (each mana stone containing 4 bonuses), but it will always pick the lower level ones before the higher level ones, which means that there is no point in ripping magic off of item that have bonuses beyond level 1 (in my hammer example, I would have no chance of getting a +25hp bonus on the item I want to enchant since it's a level 2 or 3 bonus which would never be picked over the lower level bonuses from the original fusion stones).

All this very long post to ask one more question: Are there fusion stones that have bonuses beyond level 1? How can one obtain them?

Quoted from "tralese;92938"

Aha!

All this very long post to ask one more question: Are there fusion stones that have bonuses beyond level 1? How can one obtain them?

All NPC stones have level 1 stats. That's why the purified stones exist - they have no stats at all. So you can use them to transfer only the stats you want to transfer, or at the least control the transfer process better (using a variation of the following, with one of the stones being a pure one).

You can trick the NPC stones a bit, especially if you can get three with the exact same stats (or at least 2 matching stats). Use one to rip the stats you want off an item. If you have 2 items with the same high-level stat, use the second stone to rip the second one (or make it blank, like the following). Then use the third stone to rip no stats from a blank item, so you have only the base stats on it. That way there will only be 6 stats to transfer, and you're sure of getting the high-level one.

Or if you're flush with gold, and you could be at higher levels, you can see what's on the AH. I've found a lot of good fusion and mana stones on the AH, some cheaper than what the NPCs sell them for. I used strictly AH stones to tier two items up to level 4.

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a) Combine 3 mana stones with 1 equipment. The 1 equipment you use will inherit ONLY 6 of the attributes (along with the tier level) from the 3 manastones.

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- 3 mana stones + 1 equipment = 1 equipment with 6 attributes for mana stones. [Remember: stones and equipment have to be same tier]

You contradict yourself here. Which is it? Can you combine 3 mana stones of one tier with an equipment of a different tier in order to make the equipment inherit the tier of the mana stones, or must the mana stones and the equipment be the same tier?

It's both, actually -- if the 3 mana stones are the same tier as the equipment, only the stats will be added to the equipment. If the 3 mana stones are a higher tier than the equipment, the equipment will get the stats AND be raised to the same tier as the mana stones.

I still am not quite sure what I have to do... but im sure when I give a damn about Tiers and such I might just try to learn. Before I get to that point tho, someone want to make me a Youtube vid from start to finish with explanations of why you do this that and the other things?

I can't make heads or tails of this nonsense until I try it myself.. i'd rather know it before I fux up my armor

Quoted from "likwidsage;1955"

THING TO KNOW BEFORE HAND:
1) You need 1 charge per use of the transmutor. You can get charges for the tranmutor by exchanging 3 tokens in the class hall in Vanaras City. You get tokens from completing daily quests. You get daily quests from the bulletin boards.
2) Power stones can be bought from an NPC in Vanaras City on the West side. They are also dropped but rarely.

1) I don't get this, is it just a typo? I can't find anywhere to get a charge for 3 tokens. It seems I have to get 10 charges for 300 tokens which is a huge price difference.
2) I have NEVER had a power stone (does he mean fusion stone?) drop from a mob. That would be a very nice thing to have though. Which mobs would drop these?

Do notice the date of the message you're quoting -- it's from last December, which was still closed beta. Things have changed since then. The only way to get charges is 10 at a time, and no mobs drop fusion stones anymore.