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Tuesday, January 10th 2012, 10:35pm

Using Cheap* Stats To Make Clean Tier Stones

A lot of people have been asking me on Grimdal how to use cheap stats from the glorious & hero vendors as clean stones.

The way this is done is by doing the following:

Basic understanding of how the Arcane Transmutor works, I have discussed this in my Yellow I tiering thread but I will discuss it again.

The Arcane Transmutor assigns each slot inside it a priority over others when it comes to transmuting.

Priority #1: Middle Slot
Priority #2: Top Right
Priority #3: Top Left
Priority #4: Bottom Right
Priority #5: Bottom Left

With the most recent patch that implemented Purple items that give a Clean T5 stones allow people to use the very cheap stats that most people don't use as clean stones to save Purified Fusion Stones.

This happened when purple items were implemented for level 49 (If I remember correctly) when they were only T3 stones and went up to T4 stones.

The process is simple. (Depending on what stats you use)

However, assuming you use 6 glorious (or Hero) stats together. You will have 6 GOOD stats that you want to put on a Weapon or Piece of Armour.

You will have 2 Clean T6 stones with 6 of your preferred stats. Now that you have these stones, you can get cheap stats (DexMdef, StrMdef, WisMdef, PaPdef). These are always available on the market as they have the least uses to most classes. If you would like to T6 something all you need to do is grab 3 of those cheap stats and merge them together to make a single T6 stone.

You will now have 3 Clean T6 stones (2 of which are good stats & one will be bad stats).

You place the item you would like to stat (as a T6) in the First Priority Slot (Middle) and you place the good stats in the Top Right/Top Left and the bad statted stone can go in the Bottom Left (or Right).

You can even see it on the transmutor preview which will show 6 good stats.

Since happens due to an item only being able to accepting 6 stats and since they technically have the same "value" as a good/bad stat.

You can choose which stats can go on the item by playing around.

This will only cost you 9 Purified Fusion Stones to Clean T6 an item (assuming you use only 6 glorious or hero stats).

If you have any comments, questions or suggestions on how to improve this. Please post!

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Wednesday, January 11th 2012, 1:32am

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Wednesday, January 11th 2012, 1:34am

didnt we have a bigger thread even with screenshots about that? oO

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Wednesday, January 11th 2012, 1:44am

Quoted from "YomanROM;500855"

didnt we have a bigger thread even with screenshots about that? oO


Maybe, but this is info that should be MUCH more widespread than it is. Props to Waa for trying to spreaducate and educate :)

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Wednesday, January 11th 2012, 6:55am

This should be made into a proper guide. While the thread YomanROM linked has several good explanations toward the end, one has to read a pretty long thread to find them. The other plus of making it a guile and putting in guide section is that certain overactive forum managers would not be so fast to edit out the pictures that clarify the process.
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Wednesday, January 11th 2012, 6:58am

I have questions.....


1. What if the item has a good stat you want to use on it?

2. What if the item Has a Bad stat (Dex/Mdef) you want off of it?
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Wednesday, January 11th 2012, 8:08am

Quoted from "squirrlee;500902"

I have questions.....


1. What if the item has a good stat you want to use on it?

2. What if the item Has a Bad stat (Dex/Mdef) you want off of it?


1) Stat on item is usually kept. While it is possible to push off that stat (as Yoman covered in the thread he linked), it is generally not desirable to do so. The only realistic exception is orange stat.

2) You wait for attribute purifying stone sale. :D
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Wednesday, January 11th 2012, 8:17am

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I just read the thread but I didn't exactly feel like it gave the sufficient information to do it without any problems.

I will be adding screenshots.

The reason why I make these guys is because if it takes longer then like 5 minutes using the Search to find, then it will only get bigger and harder to find in the future.

At this very moment, not many people know about this and mainly just the end-gamers do. This way it allows everyone to know about it.

It may bump the price of these stats to go up a bit but it does realistically increase their supply a bit as it saves people diamonds.

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Wednesday, January 11th 2012, 6:01pm

what if you use a bunker or crimson stat on your gear? will you loose that stat using this method?

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Wednesday, January 11th 2012, 6:09pm

Quoted from "YomanROM;500862"



Im talking about in game. Many people have NO idea how to do this. Also, many people only check this particular forum.

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Wednesday, January 11th 2012, 6:23pm

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what if you use a bunker or crimson stat on your gear? will you loose that stat using this method?


Bunker and crimson are considered lower stats, so they go onto item before hero and glorious. In other words, you keep them.
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Wednesday, January 11th 2012, 7:14pm

Title is a bit misleading imho. You are not making clean tier stones, you are replacing them with bad L70 stats.

You are saving puries, getting rid of stats you don't want (without selling it for really cheap) and creating T6 gear. (some even doing T7 this way :))

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Wednesday, January 11th 2012, 7:42pm

Unless someone else wants to take a crack at it, I'll see if I can write it in guide form. The original message from Sekrit is correct in its description but not clear enough for newbies and doesn't cover some topics, such as clean vs 1-stat item, lower stats, orange stat pushing, etc. The other thread had some decent writeups and screenshots that could make good basis for a guide.
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Wednesday, January 11th 2012, 9:19pm

Quoted from "RoMage;501008"

Title is a bit misleading imho. You are not making clean tier stones, you are replacing them with bad L70 stats.

You are saving puries, getting rid of stats you don't want (without selling it for really cheap) and creating T6 gear. (some even doing T7 this way :))


There is a reason why there is an asterisk in the title. :cool:

I will re-write the OP to ensure there are no misunderstandings.

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Wednesday, January 11th 2012, 9:35pm

Moved to guide section, as requested :)

Thanks for your work!

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Wednesday, January 11th 2012, 10:39pm

can we use IMG tags here please? its a bit pointless to have it explained on pictures and then to click every single one ;)

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Thursday, January 12th 2012, 6:39am

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can we use IMG tags here please? its a bit pointless to have it explained on pictures and then to click every single one ;)


Since this is a guide, and a rather useful (if arcane--no pun intended) one, I personally wouldn't see a problem with suspending the "no images" rule for it.

Besides, pictures are helpful for dain bramaged people like me. :D
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Monday, January 23rd 2012, 2:59am

Sorry if I missed this while skimming the thread quickly, but I'm wondering what happens to priority when mixing hero and glorious. Someone mentioned to me that glorious was considered "higher" than hero and therefore would drop off when using this method. Is that the case?