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Friday, August 16th 2013, 12:03pm

Getting rid of a rune on a piece of equipment

Say I have a decent weapon with good durability that I would like to stat up, but it has one or two lame stats on it. How can I get rid of the embedded rune but keep the weapon, or is this possible?

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Friday, August 16th 2013, 12:40pm

Just go to the menu button in the bottom right of the screen and choose Rune Extraction. Only costs gold.

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Friday, August 16th 2013, 1:09pm

I dunno if the OP is describing this correctly... but I think s/he needs to find someone w/ an attribute purifying stone ( cleans all stats off gear ), equipment attribute purifying stone ( cleans 1 random stat off gear ) or a random attribute extraction stone ( stones 1 random stat off the gear ).

OP: stats & runes aren't the same, fyi :)

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Friday, August 16th 2013, 1:18pm

'Tis indeed possible. But as a rule, I first answer the question asked. Once you start answering possible implied questions I find your answer only confuses the person who asked it.

I could go on about how stats on weapons - meh, so what. Weapons are for damage, not stats. Low level weapons aren't worth cleaning or extracting runes from, but no one actually asked about that ^^

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Friday, August 16th 2013, 1:24pm

I just noticed that the OP was talking about a piece of gear w/ "one or two lame stats on it" :))

but yeah, no need to worry about stats on low level weapons; but everyone needs to learn to stat somewhere ;)

Actually, I used to do that for lowbie guildies... just get a clean OD low level weapon & t5/t6 it w/ 3 decent stats & 3 mem fusion stones ( from DoD black codex ) so they can use it to level up quickly.

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Friday, August 16th 2013, 1:46pm

A bit of a waste, imho.

For my alts I like to give them a belt or cloak (back in the day I actually had two full set of cloth unbound OD gear with three green X stats, one with pattk+stam, one with Int+stam. I was so OP in Logar ^^)

Weapons, even tiered can be replaced in 5-10 levels with stuff that you can pick up from the AH for less than 10k so it isn't worth the charges. A nice little belt you can keep til you start collecting purples from instances or shells or whatever.

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Saturday, August 17th 2013, 1:38pm

I dunno if the OP is describing this correctly... but I think s/he needs to find someone w/ an attribute purifying stone ( cleans all stats off gear ), equipment attribute purifying stone ( cleans 1 random stat off gear ) or a random attribute extraction stone ( stones 1 random stat off the gear ).

OP: stats & runes aren't the same, fyi :)

Ya, this is what I'm describing, cleaning junk stats off a weapon. Where would I get a purifying stone?

BTW, this isn't really a low level weapon - 52 lvl. I've been playing this toon for a while, but just recently got into wanting to figure out how to stat equipment. I'm not a real serious gamer, just not wanting to get my butt kicked so easily! :whistling:

Thx for the answers so far!

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Mormerilwen" (Aug 17th 2013, 1:44pm)


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Saturday, August 17th 2013, 1:45pm

From the item shop. You get cleaners that remove all stats, ones that take the stat off and make it into a mana stone. They are only offered in sales, not permanently and cost enough that they probably aren't worth it if you don't know what they are (i.e., low evnough level to be learning the basics of the AT and such).

What is the weapon level? Honestly weapons are for damage, if it has an mdef stat it is still better than a lower DPS weapon with a good stat. Armour is for stats, weapons not.

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Saturday, August 17th 2013, 7:47pm

I dunno if the OP is describing this correctly... but I think s/he needs to find someone w/ an attribute purifying stone ( cleans all stats off gear ), equipment attribute purifying stone ( cleans 1 random stat off gear ) or a random attribute extraction stone ( stones 1 random stat off the gear ).

OP: stats & runes aren't the same, fyi :)

Ya, this is what I'm describing, cleaning junk stats off a weapon. Where would I get a purifying stone?

BTW, this isn't really a low level weapon - 52 lvl. I've been playing this toon for a while, but just recently got into wanting to figure out how to stat equipment. I'm not a real serious gamer, just not wanting to get my butt kicked so easily! :whistling:

Thx for the answers so far!
KatalanOrk is correct about the Attribute Purifying Stones. They're Item Shop products, but I wouldn't use on on the weapon you described--it would be a waste of diamonds.

At lvl 52, that's not really a "high-level" weapon. Were I you (and this is definitely a recommendation), I'd wait until I could use at least a lvl 55 weapon. And rather than clean the stats from it, as Katalan recommended, you'd be far better off raising the tier of the item. You can look through the guides section of the forums for tiering guides or ask your guildies and/or friends on how to use the Arcane Transmutor to create "dirty" mana stones that can be used to tier up such a weapon. Not only is it more cost-efficient for you, but it will be good practice for when you start to add stats and tier up your armor and accessories.

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Sunday, August 18th 2013, 9:30pm

While there are better guides and better descriptions of the statting/tiering process, let me elaborate a little.

For an DPSey classes (and healer/tanks too, although they do things little differently) the three things you are trying to keep high are damage, crit chance and attack (physical or magical, depending on your class). The choice of what to do with gear depends on the attribute you are trying to raise.

1) Damage. By far the hardest to raise. Damage comes from your weapon mostly, although some chests and set bonuses give you a little bit of damage. Still, to increase damage, you focus on your weapon. And that means you don't care about weapon stats, just tier and plussing. Stats can come from elsewhere, and since stats and tier are tradeoffs (you can have high tier and bad stats, or low tier and good stats), weapons are not statted. Take a look at AH, you will see a lot of weapons that are Tier 9 or Tier 10, but have crappy green stats like Stamina I. There are some exceptions for scout and rogue off-weapons, you don't really need to worry about it yet.

2) Crit. Crit comes from a number of places. Not too many, but more than damage. A lot of gear will give crit bonus. At high levels necklaces will have very high crit because plussing increases it. The best gear for DPS classes is usually the one that gives attack and crit.

3) Attack. Attack comes from all over. Most good gear gives you attack. Raising attributes (str for warriors, dex for rogues, int for mages, etc) gives you attack. There are set attack bonuses, and most importantly, good stats will give you attack. Since attack is so common, you dont worry about it on the pieces that can give you damage or crit. In other words, if you can't get a piece that gives attack and crit both, you go for one that gives crit before one that gives attack.

There is a lot more to it, of course, this is general basic overview. The upshot, though, is that on weapons you forget the stats. Unless it is off-weapon that you don't rely on to cause damage, you tier it up and pay no attention to stats on it.

And, what Mal said about L55 is important. At L55, great gear becomes available. ZS/DL and to lesser degree HOS are sources of gear that would put your L52 gear to shame. Take a look at gear with addon like Character Plan, you will see the difference in numbers.

Last but not least is the XI factor. Current high zone, Syrbal Pass, drops XI stats by bucketloads. You can get guildies to farm you some or get them fairly cheap on AH. Taking clean white unbound high OD piece of gear and putting good XI stats on it will give you a lot more than trying to use what gear you already have. At least a lot more attack, which at your level is probably all that you need to worry about. Then taking a good OD L55 weapon and making it perhaps T7 will give you decent damage as well.
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Monday, August 19th 2013, 5:02pm

Very helpful post Rustyx...

One thing to keep in mind at level 55, with first good purple gear and first good sets of gear (some later sets will provide small amount on damage as well) that tiering and plussing your gear is quite pricey. For example, every next tier is 3 times more expensive.

One way to keep cost at minimum for new players at mid-game is to run so called tiering alts. Basically, you start an alt, try to get 90 PT (by doing 9 dailies), send him some gear you like to use in process. (it used to be for a while chap belts from Limo, no ways some mobs in later instances drop T5 gear useful for tiering up) 1
Level alt to level 10, get startup arcanum charges (10) and purchase 3 more with PT.

With 13 AT charges with old belt way you will be able to get T6 mana stone, with new T5 gear you can get T7. Repeat this process as your time permits to get 3 same level mana stones and use this to tier up your weapon.

Other way is to purchase a lot of AT charges.

Be aware that high level tier charges count in thousands.