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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 4:59pm

Are maids permanent once you buy them? Or do you need to buy them daily?

Also, is there an upkeep associated with them? Do they use up house energy or do they take up a slot in your home?

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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 5:01pm

First: +1 for sticky.

Second, it appears prices on servers vary. I would love to have spent Reni/Artemis prices on my 6 housekeepers. The price chart on Govinda is as follows:

200k gold for 1st housekeeper
400k gold for 2nd
800k for third
1.6m for fourth
3.2m for fifth
6.4m for sixth.

If that's a bug, I'd love my housekeepers to cough up the money they've stolen in the purchasing agreeement...


I too ran into the problem of my housekeepers getting tired very quickly. I got them up to about lvl 14 in terms of their charisma, then was able to use one of their skills, and out of that, I got a few potions/foods/and some measly 30m buffs.

The phys attack buffs I've seen:
+10, 20, 40 to physical critical hit chance

The physical defense buffs I've seen:
+150 hp, +100 pdef.

The foods/potions in your guide were right on the money though. I am seriously wishing I could get the level higher on my housekeepers without their complaining after a few interactions.

The fatigue level did not raise at any point whatsoever. All of these things were similar in experience with other people I was figuring stuff out with on Govinda.
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Alt: Watchinudie - 30p/20k
half-alt: Littlehailstorm - 58d/50w - 27khp:11kmattk - healed everything

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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 5:02pm

Quoted from "elizabethany;275470"

Are maids permanent once you buy them? Or do you need to buy them daily?

Also, is there an upkeep associated with them? Do they use up house energy or do they take up a slot in your home?


They are hopefully permanent, as they have your stuff in them. They don't take up energy or spaces. There is a new housekeeper list where you can store up to 6 housekeepers.
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Alt: Tdoctor - 55Wdn/50S - Stats in progress - run nothing. :)
Alt: Watchinudie - 30p/20k
half-alt: Littlehailstorm - 58d/50w - 27khp:11kmattk - healed everything

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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 5:11pm

im guess housemaid cost is based upon character level, its only thing that makes sense. however, on Govinda, im stuck with not being to choose anything but chat, attributes or leave convo. hitting battle of defense curriculum causes absolutely nothing to happen.

there is obviously some bugs to work out, i'll be waiting with my 2 housekeepers. (cost 600k total).


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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 5:13pm

the entire maid system is bugged to hell.

List of known Bugs:

  • maids are suppose to cost 30K, 60K, 120K, 240K, 480K, 960K but this isn't always true (seems server dependent), One true fact is the cost doubles for each extra one you buy
  • some people get the attack/magic/defense buffs that last through death, others last til death, others last til the enter combat
  • some people are having their maids randomly losing all the hhard work they spent on training them
  • fatigue is not working right now and hence it is possible to "powerlevel" them to max
  • some people have claimed to have lost the items they have put onto their maids
  • highest level cooking gives 2 stacks of physical food and no magical
  • Current theory is that Govinia Server has the maids working correctly, Artemis and Reni have a glitched system that cause lots of iusses, some in players favor some against

List of corrections to OP:

  • the magic/physical/defense buffs give start out giving just a flat buff then once you level them high enough start giving a flat and a percent buff
  • Magic buff is one of two types, MAtt flat(MAtt percent) or MCrit Rate(MAtt percent)
  • Physical buff is one of two types, PAtt flat(PAtt percent) or PCrit Rate(PAtt percent)
  • Defense buff is one of two types, HP flat(HP percent) or PDef Flat(PDef percent)
  • fatigue is not currently working (on some servers it seems)
  • the Attunement stat mentioned in the guide is called Affinity
  • MAIDS ARE EXTREMELY GLITCHY, EQUIP THEM AT YOUR OWN RISK

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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 5:42pm

Thanks for the info! Good to know what the possibilities are :)
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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 5:45pm

Not to nitpick too much, but why is it that all the foodstuffs that have any value to cooks for selling are now readily available to everyone via the house-keeper?

Way to go to totally wipe out majority of usefullness for a whole in-game profession.
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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 5:58pm

Quoted from "Mavoc;275481"

the entire maid system is bugged to hell.

List of known Bugs:

  • maids are suppose to cost 30K, 60K, 120K, 240K, 480K, 960K but this isn't always true (seems server dependent), One true fact is the cost doubles for each extra one you buy
  • some people get the attack/magic/defense buffs that last through death, others last til death, others last til the enter combat
  • some people are having their maids randomly losing all the hhard work they spent on training them
  • fatigue is not working right now and hence it is possible to "powerlevel" them to max
  • some people have claimed to have lost the items they have put onto their maids
  • highest level cooking gives 2 stacks of physical food and no magical
  • Current theory is that Govinia Server has the maids working correctly, Artemis and Reni have a glitched system that cause lots of iusses, some in players favor some against

List of corrections to OP:

  • the magic/physical/defense buffs give start out giving just a flat buff then once you level them high enough start giving a flat and a percent buff
  • Magic buff is one of two types, MAtt flat(MAtt percent) or MCrit Rate(MAtt percent)
  • Physical buff is one of two types, PAtt flat(PAtt percent) or PCrit Rate(PAtt percent)
  • Defense buff is one of two types, HP flat(HP percent) or PDef Flat(PDef percent)
  • fatigue is not currently working (on some servers it seems)
  • the Attunement stat mentioned in the guide is called Affinity
  • MAIDS ARE EXTREMELY GLITCHY, EQUIP THEM AT YOUR OWN RISK


I am really excited for this new system, but I think I'll just stick with my one extra house maid until they get a few bugs worked out.

BTW, on Govinda the prices start at 200k, so at least that part of it is (I hope) not working correctly yet.

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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 6:10pm

On the Palinque server, I bought 1 maid with my lvl 23 character and the cost was indeed 30k. Was able to make fullness and unbridled enthusiasm pots. After that, she did not respond to any other interactions other than Chat. So we chatted up until 10 minutes before the server was to go down. In 20 minutes of chatting, I was able to max out her Attunement (100/100) and Charisma (72/72).

We will see after server comes back up how much of this remains the same.

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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 6:12pm

Quoted from "TheMann64;275506"

I am really excited for this new system, but I think I'll just stick with my one extra house maid until they get a few bugs worked out.

BTW, on Govinda the prices start at 200k, so at least that part of it is (I hope) not working correctly yet.


I currently believe that 200k is the correct amount and 30k is the bugged amount

I have picked up 5 maids each for my toons and i believe that getting 5 maids for less then a mil total is to cheap. the govinia prices seem more balanced for the value. Hence why I purchased all my maids already and powerleveled them before the system changes

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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 6:15pm

Zomg

I wanna be a GIANT!!!

32

Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 6:27pm

I was a bit disappointed when I leveled her to 100 cooking and she gave me salad. :\ Yeah, I'm gonna go hit things with my purdy stick instead of barbecuing them.

I think they *assumed* we would choose a housekeep of the opposite sex. I kinda like her callin me Master and tellin me how attractive I am :D Dress her purty and call her my girlfriend :p

"Make me some food, woman!"
"Master, you look tired, let me give you a massage."

Yum XD

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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 6:27pm

are you on Osha iced princess I can gift you a giant stone guardian transforamation potion and give you a consumable that makes you a giant XD
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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 6:46pm

This is a great new feature. Incredible.

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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 6:59pm

Quoted from "Tigsman;275479"

im guess housemaid cost is based upon character level, its only thing that makes sense. however, on Govinda, im stuck with not being to choose anything but chat, attributes or leave convo. hitting battle of defense curriculum causes absolutely nothing to happen.

there is obviously some bugs to work out, i'll be waiting with my 2 housekeepers. (cost 600k total).


T


well, I am on Osha and lvl 19, and it cost me 200k gold, so pretty steep for that lvl I would think. Seems more to be oddly server dependent....

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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 7:07pm

This was an awesome guide thanks a million. Would be nice if Frogster gave this sort of guidance for maids and item set skills. Oh well, lucky we have a community :)
Server: Artemis
Guild: Pandemic
Class: Rogue/Knight

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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 7:14pm

Some things I'd like to add (I only skimmed the topic and it's taken me a long time to type all this up, so I apologize if I repeat previous information):

1. The Charisma of your housekeeper determines the length of your buff. At level 80, your buff will last for 3 hours, 11 minutes. At level 100, it will last for the full 4 hours.

2. I haven't been able to test this theory out because I don't have any toons with the kind of fundage required on other servers, but in my experience if I talk my maid up until s/he is at max Affinity and Charisma, s/he never gets tired and I can ask for whatever I want from him/her - this is how I consistently max out all the skills on my maids.

3. At the moment, level 100 cooking ONLY gives the Unimaginable Salad (regardless of your class), so if you're a caster it is unwise to invest in a maid that is Gifted in Cooking, otherwise you lose out on the ability to get the Swamp Mix from him/her.

4. I have only experienced the maid resetting problem on toons in which I only had one maid. On my main, I have several maids and they have yet to reset. Granted I haven't been able to log on today, but they didn't ever reset yesterday.

I'm on the Artemis server, which I assume makes a difference.
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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 7:20pm

1. Osha here too, and first maid is 200k.
2. Other things I've noticed:

Magic specialist HK's come in 72 and 80 max charisma varieties
Weapon specialist HK's come in 80 and 100 max charisma varieties
Inventing HK's come in 80 and 92 max charisma varieties

Assuming high charisma does something useful, this seems somewhat imbalanced in favor of physical attack characters. Reason I discovered this was I noticed the charisma difference while looking for a good Inventing HK, and was trying to find one with 100 charisma. (never did) I did notice that for inventing *all* the 92 charisma HK's were heavier than the *all* the 80 charisma ones, so it's possible the max charisma simply is some indication of body type? (didn't seem to notice any similar trend with the magic/weapon ones though, but I wasn't really tracking them like I was the inventing HK's.)

P.S. I was S/D 48/48 for most of my checks. Swapped classes to D/S before one of the repops (which pretty much happen every hour, IIRC around the :15 currently, though likely to change with server resets) though to see if perhaps the reason weapon ones had higher charisma is because my main char was a weapon user, but in the repop the only 100 charisma keepers were still weapon ones... and then the server shutdown message went out and I logged off.

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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 7:36pm

As far as losing Affinity and Charisma goes... I think it has to do with the fact that you can Summon them and Hide them. Last night, I left my house and quit the game with the maid summoned... and when I checked in the morning, she had lost most of her points (94/80 back to 9/9).

I then built her back up to 85/80 again, and pressed the hide button to de-summon her. When I checked a few hours later, she hadn't lost any points while "hidden". Not a guarantee against weirdness or glitches, but my expectation is that they don't lose points while they are hidden. (or at least they lose them at a much lower rate).

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Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 7:38pm

Thank you for this great guide! Very helpful.