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Good guides by some of the more knowledgeable people to ever play the game, especially Mavoc and Rashira (ah the memories lol)

Yeah, new guides will need to be written eventually for those classes, which is why I am trying to be a little vague in writing my warlock guides as to keep them relevant for as long as possible lol. Though the posts by midknight will be relevant until the game either dies, or gets a new engine (but I don't see the latter happening ever).

I think my favorite part of reading those old guides is the better color scheme of the forums..

Quoted from "ghostwolf82;600437"

Yeah, new guides will need to be written eventually for those classes, which is why I am trying to be a little vague in writing my warlock guides as to keep them relevant for as long as possible lol. Though the posts by midknight will be relevant until the game either dies, or gets a new engine (but I don't see the latter happening ever).

Midknight mostly wrote nonsense.

Zadozex and Druffbaum wrote best stuff.

Quoted from "tyrr;600972"

Midknight mostly wrote nonsense.

Zadozex and Druffbaum wrote best stuff.

Midknight was one of the most (if not the most) knowledgeable people on these forums about game mechanics and formulas, despite not even having a high level...

He could talk circles around just about any endgamer, and not even a bit of it was "nonsense."

Quoted from "effervescent;600976"

Midknight was one of the most (if not the most) knowledgeable people on these forums about game mechanics and formulas, despite not even having a high level...

He could talk circles around just about any endgamer, and not even a bit of it was "nonsense."

I was there when midknight showed up heh. I should know.

These are the two most insightful posts about game mechanics ever:

https://forum.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=81435 - this is your entire healer guide

https://forum.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=361147 - this is your entire physical dps guide

There is no real magic dps guide since even RuneWaker does not know how magic dps works

Oh, and this
http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=71567

Don't know who discovered the crit rate formula first though.

Those 3 threads pretty much give you everything you need to know about how the game works.
If you don't suck at math of course.

Quoted from "tyrr;600981"

I was there when midknight showed up heh. I should know.

well aren't you the expert...

Quoted from "tyrr;600981"

I was there when midknight showed up heh. I should know.

You apparently missed the many informative posts he made.

Including his suggestion to completely re-work the way magic damage works, before the Chapter 4 rebalance happened. It would have actually made mages viable in non-burn DPS, and able to use more than one skill in a burn. A lot of us hoped they'd make changes similar to what he suggested.

But did they? Nope.

Quoted from "effervescent;601050"

You apparently missed the many informative posts he made.

Including his suggestion to completely re-work the way magic damage works, before the Chapter 4 rebalance happened. It would have actually made mages viable in non-burn DPS, and able to use more than one skill in a burn. A lot of us hoped they'd make changes similar to what he suggested.

But did they? Nope.

The forum is infested with "improvement" suggestions from people who have very little understanding of RoM and MMOs in general.
Those magic damage reworks is one of the looney talk examples - amateur fantasies that cannot practically be implemented and even if implemented will not get to any balance at all. I don't even want to comment on any of them directly, but I will comment here.

RoM can never achieve what people call "balance" because of the game design. Moreover, people actually prefer imbalance - RoMs best time was during the RT days when the game was extremely unbalanced. If you are a game developer/publisher - game "balance" is the least of your worries.

Practical balancing works best with small incremental changes that RW is actually doing. The danger of any balancing change is the side effects of other things getting out of balance. Case and point. RW "balances" Ice Blade and the whole priest class becomes less compelling to play. P/K/S used to be small versatile combo and now it's just a P/K with Priest second class being horrible - W/P, R/P, S/P.

RW did balance mages by giving an option to play a W/M which is exactly what mages were asking for. Because of this successful balancing, I am actually playing mage again. W/M is a great class with exceptional versatility and utility. Yes, it's not perfect, but I can live with the compromise - W/M for instances M/Wd for fun. Clueless people, however, keep crying and will be crying. You keep hearing all the talk about the lvl60 elite, and how W/M is a one-button spam, and who W/M is not a warrior. All of it bullshit. W/M should be played like a warrior with just the damage skills changed to magic damage. Warrior is a complex and fun class to play. People want to reduce everything to one-button spam though. It's especially funny to see DIYCE rogues crying about warmages as if DIYCE rogues use more than 1 button.

Today RoM is more balances that it has ever been. People play warriors again, magic dps is viable again, champions are awesome, wardens are awesome, new rogue class is good, druids got buffed super good. Yet, you would never be able to tell this if you read forums.

RoM's problem is not balance. RoM's problem is that it is the most expensive free-to-play MMO ever built. If Gameforge drops prices and makes gearing easier, RoM can be a ton of fun to play class-wise. Instance design can be better. RW goes into extremes between burnable and strat encounters. What I want to see is instance design where bosses are burnable if you have a super overgeared group, but can also be downed if you have a smart but much less geared group. Give people options whether they want to burn or think. Trash should not be the most difficult part of the instance either.

Quoted from "tyrr;601083"

The forum is infested with "improvement" suggestions from people who have very little understanding of RoM and MMOs in general.
Those magic damage reworks is one of the looney talk examples - amateur fantasies that cannot practically be implemented and even if implemented will not get to any balance at all. I don't even want to comment on any of them directly, but I will comment here.

RoM can never achieve what people call "balance" because of the game design. Moreover, people actually prefer imbalance - RoMs best time was during the RT days when the game was extremely unbalanced. If you are a game developer/publisher - game "balance" is the least of your worries.

Practical balancing works best with small incremental changes that RW is actually doing. The danger of any balancing change is the side effects of other things getting out of balance. Case and point. RW "balances" Ice Blade and the whole priest class becomes less compelling to play. P/K/S used to be small versatile combo and now it's just a P/K with Priest second class being horrible - W/P, R/P, S/P.

RW did balance mages by giving an option to play a W/M which is exactly what mages were asking for. Because of this successful balancing, I am actually playing mage again. W/M is a great class with exceptional versatility and utility. Yes, it's not perfect, but I can live with the compromise - W/M for instances M/Wd for fun. Clueless people, however, keep crying and will be crying. You keep hearing all the talk about the lvl60 elite, and how W/M is a one-button spam, and who W/M is not a warrior. All of it bullshit. W/M should be played like a warrior with just the damage skills changed to magic damage. Warrior is a complex and fun class to play. People want to reduce everything to one-button spam though. It's especially funny to see DIYCE rogues crying about warmages as if DIYCE rogues use more than 1 button.

Today RoM is more balances that it has ever been. People play warriors again, magic dps is viable again, champions are awesome, wardens are awesome, new rogue class is good, druids got buffed super good. Yet, you would never be able to tell this if you read forums.

RoM's problem is not balance. RoM's problem is that it is the most expensive free-to-play MMO ever built. If Gameforge drops prices and makes gearing easier, RoM can be a ton of fun to play class-wise. Instance design can be better. RW goes into extremes between burnable and strat encounters. What I want to see is instance design where bosses are burnable if you have a super overgeared group, but can also be downed if you have a smart but much less geared group. Give people options whether they want to burn or think. Trash should not be the most difficult part of the instance either.

wonder what u played during ch3...and the whole point for alot of midknight's posts were how the system could be REWORKED to make magic viable...as for the rest of your post, what is your point...balance good? or balance bad?

Quoted from "Cike;601087"

wonder what u played during ch3...and the whole point for alot of midknight's posts were how the system could be REWORKED to make magic viable...as for the rest of your post, what is your point...balance good? or balance bad?

My points are
1. The game is as close to "balance" right now as it will ever be
2. Balance is not the big issue. Demand lower costs.

Quoted from "tyrr;601089"

My points are
1. The game is as close to "balance" right now as it will ever be
2. Balance is not the big issue. Demand lower costs.

thank you, us morons need the simple summery

Quoted from "Cike;601090"

thank you, us morons need the simple summery

I guess, I should have added a summary. By clueless I don't mean morons.

Many people do not understand the game because very few can afford to see the game at its full potential.

My M/S guide is still out there probably. It's been a looooong time since I've played M/S so it may not be a good idea for me to even spend time on a guide.
I've been working on "The Balanced P/W guide" predominantly aimed towards solo players but that turned on its head when I gave up playing P/W.

Good luck on playing your class combos, I'm having too much trouble figuring out mine to begin with...

The arcane knowledge buried so long ago is far to powerful, and must never see the light of day, as it may fall into the wrong hands.