Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "WhootyHoo;525200"

Ok guys, i'm getting a ltitle discouraged. This boss confuses me!!! Makes like no sense!!! Everyone is telling us differnt things. We killed it so many times. We have burned it once.. We have went in had half party die still manage to kill it. But its inconsistant...

So first off we have people tell us.... "Oh its just a burn thats all we do..."

Then we got the people that tell us to serenstum when boss buffs get to 5 right after burst bash...

When he gets 5 buffs, he does a Royal Punishment to one group (I think) that takes 99% of their HP. So if they're not perfectly topped off they die, or die soon after if not healed.

We got people telling us to jump from the debuff that stacks on us to get it off...

Once he's around 30% (or after 20 seconds or so), everyone will get a stacking debuff that drains mana/rage/energy/focus. To get rid of this debuff all you need to do is move slightly or jump. I'm not sure, but I believe the more debuffs the party has, the faster he gets his 5 buffs as mentioned above. You can cake or serenstrum this if timed correctly.

We have people saying stack together in groups of 4-5 but no specific number or any reason as to why.

You stack together as tightly as possible because Burst Bash is a shared damage AoE. If it hits one person it does 277k damage, two people hits for about 90k damage, three or more hits for around 60k each or something. If someone in your stack is slightly off however, it hits everyone in that group twice and will probably kill them. You can cake or serenstrum this.

The reason im postin this is cause we went in there tonight and had a bad night =[

First we had our melee plus a healer and tank on boss.. So we did 5 people stacked on boss.. then did 3 and 3 on each side.. 2 mages and a priest then scouts and a druid.. well that didnt work the range all got slapped by bash burst twice..

Well so we went to 5 and 5... nope it didnt work got slapped again by burst bash... (not even the one when the boss hit 5 on his debuff)



So what im asking is can i have some insight please.. and dont just say burn cause it dont work every night when we going in there with like 7 people in the party.. So i mean wth are we suppose to do. I want a straight answer.. All the feedback you all can give.. Because come on people we need to not be relying on burn we need some sort of strat for the fuker. -.-

Answer in bold. When we first started clearing we did 3 groups of 4... but now we just do two groups. Experiment and do what works for you.

For further help, watch this ToSH hard video guide made by Bibby. It's pretty thorough and has explanations edited into it.

Found here:
http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=68643

its called tomb of seven phoenixes for a reason just put on redemptions and get him down so you can start another run. less aggravation. make sure the usual is in place...d/w buffs on melee, d/wd&p/s&p/r on fails..err mages.

swap tank to w/k even if you can. wd/s in melee party helps a ton. ft and soldiers attack stacked in melee party and done again after initial burn if possible. its more important for melee's to always have both or just one on at all times since % weapon dps based skills.

put fan on the bench..you need dps for this boss, not well-written prose with charles dickens' sedation and length

j/k ))))))))))))

First and foremost, I will point out some simple stuff just to make sure you are maximizing your dps Whooty. DPS should buff late since you have to run in and stack, where ever has worked for you. Fire Training and Soldiers attack really are a must, as FailmagePazuzzu has pointed out.

The first burst bash can be handled with a HCS for both parties or w/e you need an immune. Yes the skill is still very useful. Druids are great for this boss as they can cast and move. If not burning the boss, I am afraid that phoenix becomes a priority as well. The reality is this boss does require an optimal party imo, so trying it with any thing less can drive you and your guildies nutso. You have three immunes for this boss with Cake, Phoenix and HCS. USE THEM ALL!!

grrrrrrrr >< it's failmagepazuzzu...not your mangled thingy actually failzuzzu is kinda catchy

you can have 36 ppl in the raid just not in the instance of course. put a d/w outside, hell borrow one. its quite a boost. since youre mage heavy...the d/wd mdmg buff is amazing. mattack under 150k ish in burn wont benefit much from more ma until they hit that mark....but mdmg doesnt appear to stop giving a boost until like 18k.

hit the hot stew for none berserk users may help. iono much about melee other than listening to the yells of "NO AMP ATTACK!" and warriors stroking peen during it.

So many U's and Z's is just far to confusing for me. My apologizes. BTW you all realize that Fan is now gonna come to this post and write a very long short story about her adventures with the 6th boss in TOSH and I will have to post TLDR!!!

I honestly think this "[redacted]" is kinda buggy with his burst bash that when stacked and no buffs on the boss will still pone one of your parties randomly. So after several million wipes we created a immune/dps strat that generally works.

Quoted from "brogue;525288"

So many U's and Z's is just far to confusing for me. My apologizes. BTW you all realize that Fan is now gonna come to this post and write a very long short story about her adventures with the 6th boss in TOSH and I will have to post TLDR!!!

I honestly think this "[redacted]" is kinda buggy with his burst bash that when stacked and no buffs on the boss will still pone one of your parties randomly. So after several million wipes we created a immune/dps strat that generally works.

Hmmmph.

This [redacted] is a such a pain that I can't even begin to start a long story about him without being afraid that some cacti would come along and yoink it for violating the bad language policy.

Last night was just miserable. The double Burst Bash was bashing right through our Phoenix, and for some reason our Serentstrum (which we used exactly the same way we always do) was wearing off right before he actually cast Royal Punishment, so we'd hear "poof Phoenix popped" and then "AHHHHH ded" right afterwards.

It was like his timing was wonky last night. I proposed that perhaps part of our problem was that Yuki and my Flame Spirit were being counted against us as people, and that was throwing off Burst Bash since we looked like a party of 5, but with the Flame Spirits we'd be 7. But who the hell knows.

Part of the issue I think is that the timing is different now because we are burning him harder and faster now that three of us have weapons. Usually Flame Spirit has expired by the time he starts Burst Bashing, but not now.

That doesn't explain the double Burst Bashes though. Or why Royal Punishment was not going off when it usually does. We serentstrum as soon as he's done casting Burst Bash with 5 debuffs (we serenstrum the first and bubble the second one) and usually that timing is perfect. Not last night. Last night it was delayed by like 5 seconds the first time, and more than that the second time. It made no gorram sense at all.

This boss is so inconsistent that he makes us all wanna scream. Like Whooty said, one time we'll all have Phoenix left when the boss dies, and other times we wipe for hours- all doing the same thing.

FAN.......... TLDR.

In all seriousness, as I stated, we had this same issue when first farming TOSH. We stack in 2 parties of 6 and burst bash hits and there is no royal punishment, no 5 on his debuffs, and he still will one shot one of the two parties, through the phoenix. This whole shared dmg of the boss is just so Wonky at times that it was very frustrating for us as the start of farming. We thought we had the strat down and do the exact same strat the next run and the boss goes ape shyt.

At times we thought it had to do with the two parties of 6 being to close to each other and the dmg linked to both parties and it seemed to be a double hit as you describe. We had the idea that pets were creating issues and tried without and nothing changes. It does seem the boss punishes you for not having enough dps, though.

As far as I know I have never seen royal punishment delay like you say. The only issue we have ever had is burst bash and people just generally not doing the strat properly if not done with a burn party.

Oh Broguey, that means we just have to suffer til we get more daggers/staves huh?

Criminy.

Well, there is *one* really lovely druid/warrior on Palenque, and she's perfectly willing to park herself somewhere handy for buffages, thank God. Maybe we need to try scheduling our runs around her.

We try and maximize our dps, we really do. But as much as Paz likes to complain that Osha is 3 dudes and their alts, Palenque really does have a lot less people, and Whooty can level only so many alts. I am too lazy to level any . Blaargh.

I just made one of my druids reroll his mage side to scout, so maybe I can browbeat him to reroll his warden side to warrior. Poor kiddo.

Order up a Pazuzza guild leader concoction. What was it again?

-industrial size bottles of rolaids and advil, refills a plenty on percoset, and a big ass bottle of valium-