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wow, then they even stole more than the map and some objects from origin lol...

that's the same basic strat as original origin 1st dardar...

hope the 2nd comes with extra action bars :P

The boss spawns in a differnt place than the origin boss. Also, if i remember correctly, the bugs in origin originally had a single spawn point, you avoided them and dpsed them down at range. These do not have a single spawn point. The spawn from under the boss.

The new "aoth" sets are pretty sweet, but I agree, I'd much rather have the 8% int than 4% stam and int each. Wonder why that decision was made

I think the 4% int + stam would be great for M/wd pvp set but 8% intel is much more appealing for pve :/

Quoted from "acypcar90"

The new "aoth" sets are pretty sweet, but I agree, I'd much rather have the 8% int than 4% stam and int each. Wonder why that decision was made

Maybe to try and keep things balanced, perhaps?

Quoted from "Darwec"

The boss spawns in a differnt place than the origin boss. Also, if i remember correctly, the bugs in origin originally had a single spawn point, you avoided them and dpsed them down at range. These do not have a single spawn point. The spawn from under the boss.

In origin, they spawned away from the boss in a single spot. You had to have a single mage thunderstorm them as they spawned and they weren't that tough, even at instance level. Mage could dps boss and looking for bugs and be ok.

Quoted from "acypcar90"

The new "aoth" sets are pretty sweet, but I agree, I'd much rather have the 8% int than 4% stam and int each. Wonder why that decision was made

Yeah, although the set does have quite a bit more matk than Aoth I think, and of course much more crit for whatever its worth. Now we have crit accessories and aoth all from one set lol.

i would take 8% int over 4% int+ 4% stam, but i would take the crit from the new set over that 4% int.
think healers are the one getting most benefits from the new acess set, since they get crit/healing rings and earing as none existed before, not talking of the set bonus which was something inexistant since kulech mem accessories. other sets are nice, but not nearly as good compare to what exist.

not really hall of earth but

Could implement housekeeper and merchant inside of the arcanium arena. If you die you can repair there instead of porting all over and possibly crashing. Just makes it less fun without them.

Also, "Flow Spirit Guardians" give broken TP. I was getting 3k TP from them, whereas the other mobs were giving me 37.6k TP.

Separate Feedback and Discussion Threads? Referring to:
(feedback, which was recently updated)
[Feedback] Temple of the ancient spirits -> Hall of Earth/Hall of Water

VS.

(discussion)
[discussion] Temple of the ancient spirits - Hall of earth/Hall of Water

I don't get the purpose as they are one in the same. In order to provide feedback, you discuss your perspective and then respond to any follow-ups on that feedback..

Regardless, a bunch of us provided feedback/discussed this here:
Decrease Cost to Open the Arcanium Chamber or Make the Arcanium Chamber Permanent

The only useful instances are Hall of Earth (for accessories) and the eventual Hall of Chaos for the weapon.

The cape/belt/gloves/i forget set is terrible. Having ability stats instead of physical / magical attack stats = pointless.

If they want to make it good, add something different to the set bonus like maybe:

Leather:
+X% attack speed
+10% extra damage on wound attack (or shadowstab/low blow etc)
+15% extra damage on shot (or piercing arrow etc)
+5% all attributes

Chain:
+X% attack speed
+10% rage regeneration
+30 rage at all times
+5% all attributes

Cloth:
+X% casting speed
+X% elemental damage
+X% increase to all HoT's
+5% all attributes

Plate:
+you get what i'm saying.

Something that will make them different from the other typical gear. Not regular hardmode gear on weak steroids. It's an epic instance the requires tons of mats and tons of efforts and even more frustrations.

I'd like to run this for the new accessories but getting it open is not realistic. Expecting the whole server to donate when only a few guilds can run the instance isn't realistic.

Given time constraints of real life, its hard to be around when this is open on its own.

They need to either:

1. Just leave it open, sell buffs for the matts etc,

2. Put something in there that all guilds can get access to and want like mobs that drop mems or guild matts.

Honestly, I don't think that leaving it open will do much. It will just let the guilds that can already farm it be able to farm it more often and unless others feel willing to actually attempt the instances and die multiple times trying to kill the bosses. I'd rather see the instance still open for 3 days, but the gold donation rate needs to be sped up massively. mMake it something like 300 gold/sec. That would put the instance opening about every 10 days or so (that's including the time to open the instance and the time it remains open).

I don't see any downside in letting the guilds farm it, they may even put some of the UD gear in the AH.

I would rather have it open all the time then paying to open it every week. Means you're "forced" to farm it when it's open rather then PoM. Which is fine when most guilds have only just started HoE farming, but would be nice to have "the choice" . I would rather see the droprate on greens increased anyway. 3 in one run...

Well i think they did it as a gold sink to be honest. But of course like Chaos Vortex/Bolythia rift/Osalon Valley, people will go for the easy stuff and not even try to complete it. They give us things and places to go in game, titles to get etc but people just wants it easy. How many guilds or groups have actually tried doing those other instances?

Why just go for the accessories? the weapons?? I say they leave it as is, since i agree with Zerienga comment. To see more items put on AH for stupid amount of gold that no one can afford anyways.

To see Erich comment : they may even put some of the UD gear in the AH.This just shows the real issue with people running the hard mode stuff, they want to remain F2P and maybe give the scraps to other people, no ty.

could always go farm OD yourself Zid

To those of you saying it should stay the way it is (namely Zid) you better be putting in the 200m and mats every. single. time. the instance closes again. If you're not, then your comments are nothing short of jealousy standing on your soapbox going "if i cant have in there, no one can."

Why? Why do you care if it's open nonstop and other people can farm it? What do you care if they put things in the AH for whatever price they want. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Obviously people are gonna keep the OD stuff for themselves before selling OD gear to others, so why not sell UD gear of someone is willing to buy it. If you aren't, then don't. Simple as that. There is no justifiable reason anyone would want an instance to remain the way this one is right now UNLESS they can't clear it themselves and just wasn't to make it so no one else can on a regular basis either.

And as Cenre said, if you don't like what's being offered in the AH, go get it yourself. It's your own fault if you don't have the gear you want and arent willing to either farm it yourself or pay what people are asking. You have no reason to have the attitude of "if i cant have it, why should anyone else"


You want a gold sink? Be constructive and suggest something reasonable like Erich did. They could leave the instance open and charge a certain amount of gold to let you acquire the buffs you already get now when donating gold. Who wouldn't want that buff in Hall of "X?"

There are so many GOOD ways to have gold sinks in this game. An instance is not one of them.

Runewaker:
What was your intention of not allowing people to run it when they have the time to outside of a bad gold sink design?

You telling us to do something else in the meantime while it is closed even though we have the gear to run it? Umn, ok..

Sure, your current design won't impact the serious hardcore gamers (some of which responded to this thread) who seem to be logged in for many hours on end and would have the opportunity to run it more. They will certainly have a different perspective as to what is a 'good' gold sink design.

To all who thinks it should remain open all the time: tell me how you expect to get the haidon's special catalysts that you need for making the gear? What, are you going to make 100 alts and do the quests to maybe get them? It's a good gold sink because thean people that will pay to have it open all the time will be the hardcore endgamers which dominate the AH and usually have a ton of gold. Plus, with it staying how it currently is, you can get the haidon's special catalysts without making a massive horde of alts. I proposed the increased gold/sec because it would enable this, and can still act as a gold sink if people want it open all the time.

To the people that say the endgamers "might" put the gear on the AH, it would safe to say that these items, even UD will cost a lot of gold due to the time and effort just to make one piece of gear. Don't expect the pieces to be the same as regular endgame hm gear because a piece doesn't drop every boss. You have to run the entire instance multiple times just to make a piece. Sure, the quest can help you make one piece with minimal runs, but then you can't do that quest again.