Item Shop Feedback Collection for New Shop

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Saturday, May 7th 2016, 5:01am

Feedback Collection for New Shop

Now that the item shop has been up for a while, I'd like to make a couple of suggestions. These have to do with 'reduced functionality' over the previous item shop.

First, the old item shop separated the items more logically. An example would be plussing jewels. You had a section for armor, weapon, accessory and backpack. Now they are all jumbled together. Same with other sections. It shows you have the ability to make subsections, please section out the new item shop similarly to the old one so we dont have to spend forever looking for the one item we need.

Second, mouse over details. In the old shop, we could mouse over an item and see what it was. Now, when we mouse over it, we get a very generic description, we have to actually click on the detail section to see what it actually is. It would be much more convienient to show the full description at the mouse-over level.

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Wednesday, May 25th 2016, 4:53am

Still hate the gifting of the item shop. Every item should have the option to gift multiple of the item up to say 500 items. Such a waste of time. Also 2 happy hours in the past week have been missed, what happened to those?

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Wednesday, May 25th 2016, 11:27am

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Also 2 happy hours in the past week have been missed, what happened to those?

Could you please tell me which Happy Hours are we talking about? Diomond Happy Hours or Items?

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Wednesday, May 25th 2016, 5:28pm

Item happy hours, they are suppose to be every sunday, tuesday, thursday are they not? There wasn't one yesterday (tuesday), I wasn't here to check sunday, but there also wasn't one last tuesday or thursday also, forget which exactly, but for sure one of the two. Maybe someone else here would have better memory than me.

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Friday, May 27th 2016, 8:51pm

Wheel changes and discussion, zen rants

Intro:
This rant/suggestion will be discussing the many faults of the wheel, and a few simple ways to rectify them. So here we go.
Don't really know where to start, however I will begin by mentioning that this new wheel is beyond flawed, even compared to the old wheel which im 99% certain I have more experience spinning than anyone else on these servers >.>
So, why is it so bad? For starters, ask yourself's, why would anyone want to spin a wheel full of useless items? yYour answer: to receive a few +20 jewels as a reward for your wasted diamonds.

Prologue:
Now, the fact that you have to spend diamonds just for the chance of the one prize you want is absolutely ridiculous, by that I mean having to spin levels 1-2 to get onto level 3. Not much more to be said about that, levels 1 and 2 should simply be removed entirely.

Chapter 1: On to bigger and better things.
So, now that I've finally made it to level 3, which takes forever because the wheel is laggy, and spin animation couldn't be any slower... we start spinning for the +20 jewels. ANY +20 jewels, perfects, normals idc, just give me one its what i'm here for. Now how many spins do you think I went not getting one before I gave up? 10? 25? 40? 50? try 75. 75 spins of *mostly* complete crap, plus an hour of time wasted, and what did I get? A bunch of useless items i'll never in a million years use mixed in with a few decent consumables.

Chapter 2: Oh the good ol' days.
Now, why wasn't I getting a +20 in that many spins? Could have to do with the fact the single item people spin for (+20s) often don't even make an appearance on the lvl 3 wheel?? Yea, i know what you're thinking. But Zen, if they always appeared on there then +20's would be too easy to obtain. Yea, tell that to the old wheel which ALWAYS had at least one +20 jewel on it, and less other crap items it could land on instead...

Chapter 3: Don't worry we are almost at the end! just kidding. This wheel is messed up beyond belief.
So assuming there is enough people with half a brain back at GF HQ to make those changes, what else could be wrong with the wheel after that you may say. Oh boy, am i ever excited to tell you... (the sarcasm in this post tho). Well, until I see a character with a wardrobe that can hold 800 items, why in the world, would I ever need 800 advanced aggragators??? Such a useless item, if people needed them they will buy them simple as that, its not like they are a consumable anyone could use happily. Which is the main point here, why have items such as this or the lowest tp (skill) potions, or neutralization bars??? They are so conditional to a player who may need them that they are a literal waste of time and space AND dias. If you have dias to be spinning the wheel, I'm pretty sure your pet should be well off already. :pinch:

Chapter 4: Common sense, and what it looks like when you have none of it.
Moving on... Next we can talk about the most useless item of all, the 30 day home sweet home! "But Zen, we like being able to port home as much as we want in that time period". Sure I love my home as much as the next guy, but tell me... When in the course of 1 hour on lvl 3, you get 25 *30 day home sweet homes* what good are the other 24 to you...? They are really good for testing out if your discarding addon still works I can tell you that much. Like why not just give 10 home sweet homes?? I believe thats a 29 dias value for a 24 dias spin, fair, on par with the rest of the items and you know what?? You can use them when ever you want woo hoo! So rather having 1 good spin then 24 crap ones since the item becomes useless, make it 10 home sweet homes as the prize, so if you get it 25 times, you have 250 time you can travel to your house whenever YOU chose to use them. kk?? thx.

Chapter 5: Bad origins lead to bad... wheels?
Enough about the junk items, lets discuss now how the wheel actually operates. As i mentioned before for starters, the wheel, and the entire item shop, is very laggy, that mixed with a longer spin times makes spinning this thing the most boring thing in the game. However, it can be dealt with. What the biggest problem is, is where your rewards go. Idk about you guys but for me to have an extra slot available in my item shop bag is a blessing. And the fact that the wheel and the item shop in general doesn't know how to stack the same item, and rather puts it in a new slot has got to be the dumbest thing i've ever seen. That's really all I can say to that matter without going into more detail using harsher descriptive words.

Summary: Gameforge To-Do list, if you want dessert.
1- remove the levels, and have it always be as level 3 is, raise the cost back to 39 dias if it helps however then the prizes must be balanced up to par (3 phoenix's instead of 2 ect)
2- have the same 3 'jackpot' points, however ALWAYS have a moon/sun/star +20 jewel in each of them, swap between perfect and normal.
3- have nebula jewels as a casual prize, not in the jackpot slot, as the old wheel did.
4- replace items such as skill potion, advanced aggragators, and neutralization bars, and replace them with consumables anyone could use. for example Puri x2, BAS x2, golden hammer x2
5- change out the 30 day home sweet home rewards, for a pack of home sweet homes x10 or x15
6- fix the lag of the entire item shop, cut down on spin time.
7- HAVE THE ITEMS THE ITEM SHOP GIVES YOU STACK ON OTHERS OF THE SAME ITEM IN YOUR BAG (IF STACKABLE) :dash:

About the author: "I'm too old for this s***"
Feel free to list the changes you agree with or have something to add to/state your opinion on. Please use the summary numbers or chapters as reference points when making your argument to make what you are saying clear and tidy, and lets get this thing forwarded already!!! :thumbup:

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pachat93

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Friday, May 27th 2016, 8:58pm

Think i'm sounding like a broken record as well, but simply putting the +20s on sale like +16 jewels are could go a long way, could keep the wheel as a potential save money if you can use the items you get from it and have them on average for less then the normal price, but give the players the option to get +20 jewels without having to gamble/end up with a bunch of items they don't need.

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Friday, May 27th 2016, 9:06pm

Agreed. +16 new meta.

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Friday, May 27th 2016, 10:14pm

personally the wheel should NOT HAVE on any level :

Pet potions
Agregators of any type
Neutralization bars

on level 3 :

NO transport runes of any type!!!!!!
NO phoenix redemptions
NO big angel sighs

We should have 3 types of +20 jewels on every spin at level 3 and reduce the RNG or whatever you want to call it % of failure.

Be careful what you ask for to get +20 jewels in the item shop!!! 399 diamonds on special for 1 plussing jewels the way the greed of Gameforge knows no bounds.

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Friday, May 27th 2016, 10:47pm

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Be careful what you ask for to get +20 jewels in the item shop!!! 399 diamonds on special for 1 plussing jewels the way the greed of Gameforge knows no bounds.

that's actually cheaper and more available then the current situation if you look at weapon plussers

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Friday, May 27th 2016, 11:35pm

i would be all over 299 and 399 for 1 jewel lol ALL OVER THAT.

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Saturday, May 28th 2016, 2:58am

I would pay 500 diamonds for one +20 plusser at most...

Personally, i miss the old item shop =p
this new one makes me not wanna buy anything anymore... as if they dont want my money :c

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Saturday, May 28th 2016, 4:37am

Spent 2k dias on wheel, got 0 jewels. Others has spent 8k and gotten 0 jewels. Fix the shop and make the jewels more accessible again please... T.T

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Saturday, May 28th 2016, 10:57am

the +20 issue really slows down progress on upgrades, or even progression on your own toons. i need to replace multiple weapons of mine atm, but lack the motivation atm to even make tier stones.. as ive already spent 4-5k dias, and go not one +20 jewel.. and if most people are like me, we like to +20 the weapon before we tier it.

But point is, because +20 jewels are 10X harder to get than ever, its making peeps ( like me, and im sure im not only one) lose the motivation to even play nearly as much, because no way in hell is someone going to replace a +20 coeh or goh or w/e weapon they currently own for a +16 or +18 replacement. Not worth the time, cost, effort. Some have quit, and/or play less than 50% of what they used to because of this.

You guys really need to figure something out with the +20 jewels. Please.

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Saturday, May 28th 2016, 11:20am

Yup for the small gain its not worth making new items. Only just remade my new axe after waiting 90-97 ini.Cause its just not much point. People would remake much more gear if the stones were accessible.

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Sunday, May 29th 2016, 1:14am

the fact that multiple people have already spent multiple thousands of dias on the wheel in the hopes of getting +20 jewels is the very reason its not going to change.

my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Sunday, May 29th 2016, 1:18am

I believe even more would be spent on +20 if they were sold like every other items though

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Sunday, May 29th 2016, 2:16am

will they though? I don't doubt that there are some people that will still be able to have +20 gear with the new wheel. just because less people have it doesn't mean less dias will be spent in the hopes of attaining it.

my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Monday, May 30th 2016, 1:37am

Puri sale tonight

Yet again the item shop manager not able to make them available in 1/5/10/20/50 increments. Why should we be surprised, total failure once again

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Monday, May 30th 2016, 3:54am

Why only 50 even? make it a text box for us to input a gifting or buying number on EVERY item, up to 999. Last time I bought on this sale was 5k puris... yea like ill ever do that again at 50 at a time let alone 1. :dash:

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Monday, May 30th 2016, 4:17pm

OMG and today we get another utterly useless sale

http://fr.runesofmagic.gameforge.com/new…/offre-bestiale

btw those are still the rinse and repeat sales we've had for 4 years of Gameforge and even with the new item shop.

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Feedback Collection for New Shop

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Wheel changes and discussion, zen rants

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Puri sale tonight