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Quoted from "zidlef"

Cike i was making a point

your point quite literally ended up being that this game is WAY too expensive(in time or money).

Nah it is only as expensive as you want it to be for yourself and others. For me it is quite enjoyable and fun and once the merge is here, hopefully more running instances and finding new friends ;-)

Honestly, the only thing that Mem gear needs to be relavant again is to allow them to "drop" all stat combinations.

Mems = Random stat per piece of gear. Completely random, but the chance to get "good" stats are there. ie Whether you pick a plate, chain, leather or cloth piece, your chance of getting a stam/mp is the same chance as getting an int/matk.

EoJ's = Semi-Random stat per piece of gear. 50% chance of gear related stat & 50% chance of completely random stat; once again, chance of getting "good" stats are there. ie if you pick a chain piece, you have a 50% chance of getting a str/x stat & 50% chance of anything else

Shells = Kinda Random stat per piece of gear. 100% chance of gear related stat & chance of getting "good" stats. ie if you pick a leather piece, you know you'll get a dex/x stat

PoMs = Possibly Random stat per piece of gear. 100% chance of getting 1 of 3 stats per piece of gear. ( so you have a 1/3 chance to get the stat you want ) ie, if Plate Chest piece has: 1. Stam/Pdef 2. Stam/Dex 3. Stam/Int so you gamble and know you will ONLY get 1 of those 3.

Allows people who want to farm mems, EoJ's, etc to get stuff that isn't total crap some of the time.

I spend the money and the time and still can't get what I want because poms are too scarce.and it's only going to get worse with the merge.

Quoted from "Cike"

Quoted from "zidlef" but if you are talking about exchanging currencies for another in game, that would probably kill the stats trade for sure and lower people will have no way to really make gold to level up one day.
explain please.

this doesn't kill the stat trade, it simply makes the method of obtaining stats more flexible. you're still not gonna pull the stats you want, and you'll still have to trade them.

i don't see how this effects lower level toons. they have MORE opportunities to make gold, for example, farming mems would have an actual return.

The reason why this kills the shell stat trade (and most stats trades) is because the market for shell stats is endgamers who either don't have the time or willingness to do minigames. People who farm shell stats don't buy shell stats, and neither do people who want to gear up but aren't endgamers, because they simply do their own minis. Endgamers are overflowing with mentos since they're useless beyond accessories and if you allow shell stats to be bought with mentos, the majority of the market disappears. Also, once you allow mentos to buy pom items, the demand for all lower stats will further erode even more. Lower geared people will suffer the most because one of their big sources of revenue will be gone and they are also not geared enough to be able farm mentos quickly or even at all.

totally agree with Radeon, although people mostly have more than 3 classes to gear up in the endgamer department, stats are needed a bit more.

Also for me on Reni i trade stats for peoples mems to get me mats to craft, it works for both sides to get what they need. But that also some people don't like me doing that but hey, i do what i can to obtain what i need.

What was this thread about?????
Oh ya mentos and the 3k limit.
I would think the cap would just be raised to 6 or 7 k.

Quoted from "Mamn00n"

mento limit and the exchange of special currencies for other special currencies...

LOL sm of Dees ppl yo. Am I rite m8?


But seriously special currencies trade will only lower the cost of stats?

IF anything increase the amount of the special currency needed to trade, But to do that we'd again need a higher cap mount, but its like mems are good for anything else anyways I'm capped on both my toons b/c mems are useless.

Server merge = stats less prices regardless. Because more people with those same stats.
Special currency trading = more of a chance at least to get get stats you needed via a bunch of trading currency.


The only people I see it hurting here is people who sell stats via 45m for a stam/def or 80 for a orange str/pa.
#endgamers.

Apparently more stats and being able to gear easier is NOT what people in fact want. If it lowers the cost? find another way to make gold, I've had to find a couple different ways to make gold over the years b/c if you find a way. Someone will always find a way to lowball you.

Ex. I use to sell simple hammers.

Before offering suggested fixes on the MEM limit, it would be interesting to know why (from the developers) there is one. Is it...
A) In place due to some software or hardware capacity issue? What is it?

B) In place because once upon a time MEMs could be used for getting 'good' stats? Not sure I follow the logic with this one though if that is the case. What does that have to do with imposing a limit? Explain. Even if that was the case, are there any 'good' stats that can be obtained now? If no...why do we still have this limit again?

C) Was it based on some sort of logic where only <x> amount of gear pulls can be obtained at a time? If so, what is the reasoning behind this? Related to the previous one?

D) Someone once upon a time designed it that way. No one knows why anymore or what purpose it served as documentation for it does not exist.

E) Other?


The limit should be revisited given current MEM requirements.

If I recall, the Mem limit was put in place to fight against Tonk botting. Dalanis hosts 3 events that made it easy to get thousands of mems. This was also the reason the timer functions were disabled in Lua.

a lot of people just stopped going into instances or timed instance runs in-between the 3 events.

Quoted from "Mamn00n"

As for why the limit(s) were created? My best guess is to that so people wouldn't horde like mad and go crazy on level cap increases. I don't think there was ever a given explanation, and if there was It was overlooked.

Lets say hypothetically that was their logic. Level increases don't happen too often where this sort of scenario would only apply like 1% of a player's experience when playing RoM. A better designer would come up with a way of combating that small use case rather than impacting everyone unnecessarily most of the playing time.

If this indeed was their logic, then they should at a minimum update the MEM limit each level increase as well. The increase would match the same ratio equivalent pulls on the new level vs the prior level due the constant increase in MEM requirements. Example..

(Never changes regardless of level increases)
Amount of MEM gear pulls allowed at max character level: 3

(Current level)
Max level is <x> - Lets just say 90
Amount of mems required for gear at this level: 1190
MEM limit would need to be: 3570

(Next level)
Max level is <y> - Lets just say 93
Amount of mems required for gear at this level: 1300
MEM limit would need to be: 3900

etc..

But with there really being no good stats from mem pulls why the cap limit anyways? I can t5ell you I know it's for the fact that we can't hoard the mems and pull like 10 things at a time, but still really no one uses mems except for gear pulls if theres anything even worth getting.

IMHO mems are almost a lost currency, just like the Red phiruis shells from zone events.

Well they should put mem at 10K and Honor points with no limit as it used to be for them. But no matter what, until they fix the drop on mem gear it won't change anything ;-(

Quoted from "zidlef"

Well they should put mem at 10K and Honor points with no limit as it used to be for them. But no matter what, until they fix the drop on mem gear it won't change anything ;-(

Can I get my 125k x2 (2 characters at least) honor points I lost when they implemented that cap system first please (I still have a SS of it on my PC haha)

ya i never got why they ninja nerf honor points to people and nothing was ever given to compensate for it either sadly ;-(