Runes of Magic US / AU

Ok, I have a few pints to make. First of all, Zer your numbers are way off, I appreciate the math. but $85 isn't going to do it, I'd be surprised if we made it by on anything less than $500. If the math isn't done later, I'll do it myself. Assuming everything +16 and important pieces go to +20. T7 gear, and t12 weapon. You also made the most awful assumption possible, that you have all the gear and stats in hand. Which is the biggest FK U to pretty much every player that started after chapter 4. That alone is gonna cost you your retirement fund.

As for people coming back. Zid I'm going to make something clear to you. Most people do not come back. If they ever wake up enough to leave the game, chances are good they won't come back. ESCPECIALLY if they spent money. I am one of the few exceptions to this rule. Because I achieved endgame without ever spending a penny. And let me tell you it took 5 generous people, a few mistakes on GF/RW, and abusing the hell out of free events like POM stuff. Because when dwarves were a thing, I already had a character, and knew the price to get endgame. I was not willing to spend the money and geared the hard way, using someone elses wallet, in return I gave them gold. A lot of gold, literally multiple gold caps over time. And I had 2 people selling me dias. 1 person was plussing my stuff. THE ONLY reason I returned after waking up enough to realize how awful this game is... Was because of the community, and I don't mean normal guilds. I mean very specifically the people in disturbed.



Edit: @ the gms. Allow us to talk and have conversations like this. It allows us to relieve our stress and relax. By being all uppity and snooty about what we post just make you guys look bad. Your overly strict and harsh for little reason, often you read to much into things... Please, be lenient with us, we only want to talk about the game we play. We know you play it too, and despite the green text, you feel the same ways we do. Your not that inhuman I hope.

Edit #2: On topic, I actually have seen a RoM add, within a month or so.. I think it was on armor games.

Quoted from "ftwoplay"

Ok, I have a few pints to make. First of all, Zer your numbers are way off, I appreciate the math. but $85 isn't going to do it, I'd be surprised if we made it by on anything less than $500

when i was doing the math on the "budget build" posted a while ago, not including stats/gear, i was looking at ~200 USD (7.3k dias, not including weapon).

that being said though, that build was quite stingy on the gear mods as well.

Yes, I made the assumption that you already had all the gear and stats in hand. However, my numbers were created based off of a 120% dias sale and buying the IS items at full price. My numbers are the analytics minimum on average that you can spend using a 120% dias sale to buy dias. The $85 I stated is just if you t11 your weapon using the new blues that give t6, you only t6 your gear (only using 6 puris) and only +16 your weapon, rings and necklace. It does not include the cost of drilling, the cost of runes, the cost of going to +20, nor the cost of +16 on everything. It also doesn't take into account spending any ptokens for jewels or puris.

When I get a chance I'll just write out all of my calculations and post those on their own instead of writing the totals only.

Quoted from "Zerienga"

Yes, I made the assumption that you already had all the gear and stats in hand. However, my numbers were created based off of a 120% dias sale and buying the IS items at full price. My numbers are the analytics minimum on average that you can spend using a 120% dias sale to buy dias. The $85 I stated is just if you t11 your weapon using the new blues that give t6, you only t6 your gear (only using 6 puris) and only +16 your weapon, rings and necklace. It does not include the cost of drilling, the cost of runes, the cost of going to +20, nor the cost of +16 on everything. It also doesn't take into account spending any ptokens for jewels or puris.

When I get a chance I'll just write out all of my calculations and post those on their own instead of writing the totals only.

Thanks. I would be interested in reading this, because I am going to be starting over on reni, and want to know if it is really worth it, even with other peoples help.

Plussing Necklace, Rings, and Weapon to +16 and T11 Weapon Cost: 4241 Dias | 74.97 USD

49.99: 1365 * 2.2 == 3003
19.99: 473 * 2.2 == 1040.6
4.99: 105 * 2.2 == 231
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74.97: 4274.6



I just realized while typing this out, that I messed up my original calculations. I had calculated 3 packs of 10 +16 Jewels instead of 2, increasing the cost by 299 dias. The above is assuming buying dias at 120% sale and not buying anything out of IS when on sale.

Advertisements?

That would require ROM spending money.

upon goggling "advertisements for Runes of Magic":


'Runes of Magic' Case
www.reedsmith.com › News & Knowledge › Publications
Reed SmithJan 8, 2014 - It held that advertising the “free to play” online game “Runes of Magic” with the sentence “seize the good opportunity and give your armour and ...

and

Final Decision in Runes of Magic Case - Osborne Clarke
www.osborneclarke.com/.../final-decision-runes-magic-c...
Osborne ClarkeFinal Decision in Runes of Magic Case: German Federal Court of Justice Upholds Ban on In-Game Item Advertisement. 29 October 2014 - Germany. The highest ...

are the first 2 hits. It seems, by reading the court briefs, that Gameforge is not allowed to advertise the game.

From my interpretation of it, Gameforge can still advertise, but they can't figure out how to make it not directly target children in the eyes of a random group that decided that an advertisement targeting everyone was directed specifically at children. So now, GF doesn't advertise at all due to the contradictory ruling of the court in the previous case and not wanting to deal with that hassle.

My guess is that ROM knows they are operating an illegal quasi-gambling operation masquerading as a game and don't want any governments to realize it. The wheel of fortune, gashas, and plussing jewels absolutely fit into the definition of forms of gambling which require licenses to operate of which they don't have.

Well European laws protects children a lot and that is a good thing, they just have to get someone who can write advertisement and is aware of said laws and the wording. But that is no excuse for not making ads for the game. To those who thinks it's a random group, well those are assumptions, there are plenty of groups that watch everything and protects children in Europe, sadly in America they let kids at everything without protecting them from anything, then they get shot, imprisoned etc and they wonder why. More kids protection and less grieving parents cause they turned out doing stupid things

Quoted from "radeon"

My guess is that ROM knows they are operating an illegal quasi-gambling operation masquerading as a game and don't want any governments to realize it. The wheel of fortune, gashas, and plussing jewels absolutely fit into the definition of forms of gambling which require licenses to operate of which they don't have.

Based on some experience from another game, laws don't consider such things gambling. Reasons include:

• you have no way to gain money or convert these items to money
  
• every spin/gasha does give you an item, so you never "lose"
  
• virtual items to have no (recognized) value
  

While there are those who disagree with the laws, consider that the entire damage, crit, and drop systems in almost any game are based on some form of rng.

Quoted from "illagong"

you have no way to gain money or convert these items to money

Quoted from "illagong"

virtual items to have no (recognized) value

I guess you are right. There is no real prize that we can win. It's sad though that ROM uses gambling to try to extract as much money from players instead of just trying to make the game as entertaining as possible. It's no wonder why so many people have quit.