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Friday, February 1st 2013, 6:59am

potion clear thought

potion clear thought has been disabled and not available for mage/rogue class. Have not tried other classes. Does this mean all speed enhancements are disabled as well?

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Friday, February 1st 2013, 9:10am

Most elite skills that increase cast speed passively or through long-term buffs (like the P/R Nimble Hands elite) don't stack with Clear Thought. In your case, it doesn't stack with Shadow Protection, unless that was changed at some point.

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Friday, February 1st 2013, 9:40pm

it did before unless they changed that! must have missed it in the patchnotes!! Did hey tell you your knight warrior combo can now use only staves. 2-h weapons have been disabled for this class!!

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Saturday, February 2nd 2013, 3:44am

so rogue don't get to use clear thought because they already have a passive skill nimble hands. Does this apply to every class that can cast a buff such as warrior that can go into a frenzy or a priest elite skill that can cast a magic attack increase buff- in this case the cant use any buff that additonally increases their magic attack and/or warrior cannot use any buff while in a frenzy?

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Saturday, February 2nd 2013, 5:20am

Like effervescent said,M/R has never been able to use Clear Thought or Ancient Spirit Water while your Shadow Protection buff is on...makes it slightly annoying trying to burn Proc's in siege and I forget to remove Shadow Protection first :(
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Saturday, February 2nd 2013, 10:34am

Quoted from "Marlborz;587137"

so rogue don't get to use clear thought because they already have a passive skill nimble hands.


Clear Thought increases Casting Speed, not Attack Speed like Nimble Hands.

As a melee class, all/most of your skills are likely to be Instant Casts so Clear Thought is pretty much useless to you.
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Saturday, February 2nd 2013, 4:05pm

Quoted from "Marlborz;587137"

so rogue don't get to use clear thought because they already have a passive skill nimble hands. Does this apply to every class that can cast a buff such as warrior that can go into a frenzy or a priest elite skill that can cast a magic attack increase buff- in this case the cant use any buff that additonally increases their magic attack and/or warrior cannot use any buff while in a frenzy?


I said P/R specifically because P/R gets an elite that changes Nimble Hands to passively increase cast speed. It does not stack with P/R Nimble Hands; it has nothing to do with physical attack speed buffs. M/R has an active buff that increases cast speed, and it will not stack with that either.

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Saturday, February 2nd 2013, 6:31pm

I still think it sould be usable because there isn't anything a m/r can use that would benefit it in a way other to slow down them down. It takes alot to increase speed for any class and this is just an extra incentive. Take that with the fact tha most m/r will use daggers instead of 2-h staves and they are already at a disadvantage. If the daggers could stack with each other in terms of both p/m damage i could see why it isn't allowed. Too many resrictions for this class. Clear thought would be used over this elite skill anyway so whats the point of having it.

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Saturday, February 2nd 2013, 7:14pm

Yeah, make it stack. :)

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Saturday, February 2nd 2013, 11:48pm

and please remove the shared CD between Clear Thought, Ancient Spirit Water and Witch Doctor Elizir, they dont stack with each other anyway so it would be pointless to make them also share CD with each other.

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Sunday, February 3rd 2013, 1:36am

Quoted from "Marlborz;587204"

I still think it sould be usable because there isn't anything a m/r can use that would benefit it in a way other to slow down them down. It takes alot to increase speed for any class and this is just an extra incentive. Take that with the fact tha most m/r will use daggers instead of 2-h staves and they are already at a disadvantage. If the daggers could stack with each other in terms of both p/m damage i could see why it isn't allowed. Too many resrictions for this class. Clear thought would be used over this elite skill anyway so whats the point of having it.


You do realize that you can tier both a wand and dagger for extra mdam, right? No M/R uses two daggers lol, that'd just be stupid. M/R can get the highest mdam of all mages, afaik, by tiering wand/dagger, so I hardly see how that's a "disadvantage."

You get a free 11% cast speed buff, so why exactly would you use Clear Thought over that? There's no need to nitpick over the extra 10% from Clear Thought when all mages can hit the cap of .5 seconds anyway; it won't do you any good during burns.

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Sunday, February 3rd 2013, 2:46am

Quoted from "Marlborz;587204"

I still think it sould be usable because there isn't anything a m/r can use that would benefit it in a way other to slow down them down. It takes alot to increase speed for any class and this is just an extra incentive. Take that with the fact tha most m/r will use daggers instead of 2-h staves and they are already at a disadvantage. If the daggers could stack with each other in terms of both p/m damage i could see why it isn't allowed. Too many resrictions for this class. Clear thought would be used over this elite skill anyway so whats the point of having it.



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T11 Shackles = 11100 - T11 Fear Devourer + T11 Dim Light = 12193

Good for siege, extra hard hits :D But on the other hand...m/r sucks in pve, lol
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Sunday, February 3rd 2013, 9:21pm

Quoted from "bilalab;587225"

and please remove the shared CD between Clear Thought, Ancient Spirit Water and Witch Doctor Elizir, they dont stack with each other anyway so it would be pointless to make them also share CD with each other.


They don't need to and shouldn't stack. Witch Doctor elixir is a leveling pot, like Life Source. It's not supposed to be as good as Ancient Spirit Water. Mages can already get to the cap, all class combos.

I can see making an argument that it would be nice to make ASW stack with Clear Thought, since that would actually improve our sustained dps by a bit- that would actually be useful. But it wouldn't be enough. They really need to do some work on mage's sustained dps- Clear Thought would not cut it.
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Monday, February 4th 2013, 1:47am

thats the thing, what will happen when they remove the shared cd is that we would be able to pop ASW than witch doctor when ASW goes off and than clear thought when witch doctor goes off. that way we will have a little faster casting speed most of the time during a fight.