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ghostwolf82

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Tuesday, April 23rd 2013, 2:47am

[Wl/R] Elite - Crime & Punishment - Broken

For reference, the skill info is as such:

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Crime and Punishment
Level 50 Elite for the Warlock/Rogue
Instant Cast / 4 sec cooldown
200 Range
Cost is 2 PSI/Soul Points

Only usable under the state of Willpower Blade.
Inflicts 120.0 Dark Damage on target. If target has been affected by Perception Extraction, Soul Pain, or Soul Poisoned Fang, then each addition state will increase damage caused by Crime and Punishement by 25% and reset the effective time of these states.


So, more testing being done, and I found another warlock skill that is not performing as it should be. This time it is detrimental to the class combination.

When I only had a level 50 staff at level 55, the skill C&P was level zero (I had no TP in the skill), and it was hitting for ~15k when all the prerequisite DoT's were applied to make the skill hit harder. Now at level 58, with a level 57 staff (with a much higher mDmg and mAtk) and 50 levels into C&P, I am only hitting for ~10k with C&P.

How is this possible? At level 50 C&P has a base damage of 3120.0 and only hits for 10k, while Warp Charge (another level 50 instant cast skill) has a damage of 1295.0 and does ~8.5k in damage to the same target. C&P should be hitting for MUCH harder on this target. Let's have a look at some math, shall we?

If WC has damage 1295 and hits for 8.5k then
1295*2=2590 which would hit for 17k

So, roughly 2.5 WC is equal to 1 C&P with none of the DoT's applied. C&P with no dots applied should be hitting for around 20-21k.

NOW add in the DoT's, lets say all three DoT's are applied. Now, using RoM math logic, we know that 25% of the current damage of C&P will not be added up each time, for a final damage for C&P of ~39k. Just not how RoM math works, as was pointed out long ago by littlefeather and midknight. If it did, then you would take 20k + 5k (25% of 20k) = 25k + 6k (25% of 25k) = 31k + 8k (25% of 31k) = 39k

This is not the case though with any skills in RoM, so lets take 20k + 5k = 25k + 5k = 30k +5k = 35k ... So C&P should be hitting this target for ~35k based on the damage from Warp Charge.

My question to Gameforge, which should be asked of Runewaker in turn ... When do you plan to fix this skill to give the correct damage?

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Friday, September 13th 2013, 10:59am

So... this got moved to "Not a bug"... does that mean it got fixed? Or is it meant to be sh*tty maths and just designed to be flawed? Or no one gives a hoot and just trying to brush it under the rug when someone points out that it is in fact sh*tty maths and gives you the "how" for fixing it as well?

Just wondering because I haven't had the time due to real life stuff to log in for several months now.

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Friday, September 13th 2013, 12:46pm

I don't know why it got moved here, but I'll guess it has something to do with this:
Every bug which is not posted according to this template will be moved to Not a Bug.


The Bug Report template can be found here: [Bugreport-Template]How do I make a report?

As detailed as your report was, it didn't follow the template.

Then again, the skill may have been fixed - not having a Wl/R, I cannot check.

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Saturday, September 14th 2013, 7:36am

I had a longer post here but my browser ate it. Meh.

TLDR because its 7:30am on a Saturday where i live:

a) Not a bug report because well, as Yrcanos already said, it didnt use the template. Sorry, the whole forum needed to be sorted, i can't emotionally care about every single thread when there were 400+
b) Using the template makes all the work in forwarding reports much easier.
c) Yes, its an actual and good bug report, and even though i moved it (yes, I, so blame me :p) because it doesnt have the template, i bookmarked it in the process for further review anyway.
d) The template that is MANDATORY to be used for bugs to be reported should by now be integrated in the creation of new threads in "Bug Reports".
e) Future threads that are moved to "No Bug" will be tagged. Not a Bug / Not a Bug Report / Already Reported (aka Double-Report) / Server-Issue / Unable to reproduce . This also has been freshly activated/installed.
f) we're in head over heels due to the patch issue so writing all of this up nicely and to properly announce what's going on in this sub has lower priority atm. ;)

Good "night" ;)

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Sunday, September 15th 2013, 2:53am

yet iirc, this was written before the template, and hasn't gone anywheres...so how is it ghost's fault it's not "correct"?
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

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Sunday, September 15th 2013, 3:30am

yet iirc, this was written before the template, and hasn't gone anywheres...so how is it ghost's fault it's not "correct"?


The [Bug Report Template] How to Report thread was created in January 2012. Ghostwolf posted April 2013.
We cannot forward a bug report without the template and it was explained in further replies as to why this was moved.

~ Beren