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Saturday, April 19th 2014, 10:25pm

[fixed] S/D 60 Elite Efficiency Guidance Broken

Title: S/D 60 elite broken

Description: s/d 60 elite does not give the appropriate amount of focus/energy/rage back. it only gives 2 rage/focus/energy(lvl 0 value), even when maxed(when plussed to 50, it should return 30). combat log says it gives 2 of the appropriate pool to each party member, which it does. as of now, the elite is 100% useless, as it does not function. it literally doesn't do anything. while it does not break anything, there is no point to get it besides so you can get 70 elites.

added: i even reset all tp with a stone, and tried again. plussing the elite does not increase the rage/focus/energy return like the description states

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Saturday, April 19th 2014, 10:55pm

Wow complaining because one of your elites doesn't give you enough? really, at leasat it is not broken

Talk to Flecia and his rogue/priest elite that is broken for more than a year and still no mention of a fix and his actually does something.

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Saturday, April 19th 2014, 11:05pm

Did it change recently? I thought I told you before that at level 0 you get the max gain, and at lvl 50 you get teh least -- it is still broken just not quite the way you described. Was that changed?

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Saturday, April 19th 2014, 11:22pm

no idea. I finally just got it. at lvl 0 it gave 2 back. at lvl 50 it gave 2. I reset tp back to lvl 0, and it gave 2 still. leveled it again because wth and it still gives 2.

I think that it is broken differently now. AFAIK, they keep changing it, but never actually fixing it(at least my d/s friend tells me). been broken since the lvl 60 elites were implemented(and not the only one still disfunctional AFAIK). kinda sad its been broken so long.

zid, it's broken because the effect does not increase as you level it like the description states. imagine if EA was stuck at lvl 0 value no matter how much tp you dumped in it. I think you would call that pretty darn broken as well. I would ask you to please kindly get out of my thread if you have nothing useful to add.


I would make a bug report for r/p as well, but I don't know the specifics. yes, I know it's broken, and have a general idea why it breaks the class, but not well enough to write up a bug report. if some1 would like to talk about it, I would be happy to push for r/p fix as well if somebody informed of the specifics...
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Sunday, April 20th 2014, 7:57am

I explained the elite to you via private message. It gave max return at +0 on February 14th.

EDIT: see attached SS. Taken TODAY
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Sunday, April 20th 2014, 8:09am

yes, I know, I went back and reread those PM's. that's why I bothered to get the elite, because it was broken, yet was still usable.

just describing what I saw today. I tried it with other people and myself(warrior was most helpful because you could lock in combat and neither gain nor lose rage). like I said. tried it originally at +0, returned 2 rage/focus/energy. leveled it to 50, still gave 2. used tp reset stone to bring it back down to 0, continued to give 2. leveled it again, this time checking periodically(every 5 levels), and they all returned 2.

I used warrior to get the raw number(can easily see increase in rage when stuck in combat), as well as checking my combat log, the other people checking their combat log, and watching the numbers "pop" over the heads. every single source said 2 every single time, no matter the level.

literally, no matter what level it is, it still gives 2 rage/focus/energy. if you have a different experience, I am curious to see what may be causing it.

when I catch my other d/s friends on, I will have to get them to test as well, because it would really suck if it's an isolated incident :/

edit @ screenshot: it NEVER returned any value other than 2("correct" +0 value), no matter what level I had it at. I checked +0 and +50 multiple times.

not trying to doubt you or anything, just weird because that's not what I see at all.
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Sunday, April 20th 2014, 8:20am

Could the 70 elite (if you have it) affecting, or something else. I don't have the other s/d elites -- i have the 60 and only the 60 due to the current npc glitch. Devour blood still triggers, but it restores 30 for me so the only thing i can think of is some other influence (like 70 elite).

The info from pm's was taken using a different character, who had all the elites including 70 now that I think about it....so I really dunno what the issue for you is.

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Friday, April 25th 2014, 3:42am

thanks blank, i will continue to keep testing.

don't wanna just waste tp reset stones though :/
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Saturday, May 17th 2014, 7:55pm

just some more testing...

cannot find some1 with it still at lvl 0 to get screenie, but i DID have it at 0, and it still returned 2.







when leveling "backwards", level 27 shud still give more than 2.

even watched focus pool when the skill went off(sorry no screenie for this, hard to get screenie of "watching focus pool fill up"...) used switching weapon to start at 0 focus. focus regens 15 points at a time while standing around.

without using VA, focus went from 0 to 15, 30, 45, 60, 75, 90, 100. when VA was used while focus was at 0, the focus pool went 17, 32, 47, 62, 77, 92, 100.


if i had a spare tp reset sitting around, i would use it to take another screenie at lvl 0. but alas, i don't :/


even if it levels "backwards", it is still bugged nonetheless.
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Wednesday, May 21st 2014, 10:27pm

another screenie...different char(thx cenre)



still seems broke...

blank, u have any ideas as to what might be "fixing" it?
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Thursday, July 3rd 2014, 5:43am

still broken since last patch
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Tuesday, July 22nd 2014, 6:36am

still broken
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Wednesday, July 30th 2014, 5:51am



still not working correctly as of .2707...
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Wednesday, July 30th 2014, 9:26am

Maybe it recovers "0" when you are max mana and focus? Ch/P elite works that way too, as does angel's wings (MP restoration).

What happens when you lower all ur mana and focus to 0 (or as low as you can), then use the skill?


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Wednesday, July 30th 2014, 1:03pm

Tested it with two chars...
First character -> skill did correct stuff
Second character -> Bug reproduced

It seems that the level of this skill is assigned to the wrong skill (didn't get it which)

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Monday, September 29th 2014, 9:34pm

still broken as of .2713...

i know it's been reported, just letting people know that it hasn't been ninja fixed yet :P

Maybe it recovers "0" when you are max mana and focus? Ch/P elite works that way too, as does angel's wings (MP restoration).

What happens when you lower all ur mana and focus to 0 (or as low as you can), then use the skill?
tried that bb, still doesn't work. i even got every class to try it, just to make sure it's not a class-specific bug with warrior and scout or something...
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Tuesday, October 14th 2014, 6:30am

still broken as of .2718

hadn't expected a fix due to no patch notes, but no ninja fix either :P
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Friday, November 7th 2014, 5:29pm

Cike can you recheck it, if it's fixed or not?

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Friday, November 7th 2014, 7:44pm

I can confirm that a +0 efficiency guidance still returns 30 focus for xamd, so in all likelyhood, still bugged.

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Friday, November 7th 2014, 9:10pm

lol found the reason...
It's scaling with Forest Guidance (Scout/Warden level 70 elite)

Can someone confirm this O.o

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