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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 5:39am

Holy Chains and Shackles of light

Title: Holy Chains only flashes on and off/Shackles of light doesn't work at all

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On my Knight main, the skills holy chains and shackles of light don't work, holy chains will flash on and off but never stay. literally, on then off, no delay, that's if it even hits. It doesn't matter what player or mob it is. For Holy chains to have any effect at all I have to stay and spam it, if it does hit them possibly a half second that it's on at any given point.

As for Shackles of light, it just doesn't work period. player or mob. doesn't matter what lvl, high or low, gear or stats. Just doesn't do anything and the 1min cd will go off for it. I also have the elite.

I have faced other knights of all lvls and same or different class combo. holy chains has been lower lvl them my own and there's works flawlessly. Same with shackles of light, they hit it and it works, everytime. I have talked with other knights and they've never had an issue.

I have re dl'd the client with no effect, I have redone my skill bar to no effect. nothing that has been suggested has worked.
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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 6:06am

Might be useful to list class combo, and any elite skills involved.

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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 6:20am

Knight main, only have scout and warrior as other classes. doesn't work on either and I detailed I have the elite for Holy Chains in the description

Called "Evil Shackles" which makes holy chains "not limited to any target type, but when target is not an undead or demon target, effect time is reduced by half"

Shackles of light is a Knight main class skill you unlock. no leveling it up. "shackles of light" ; Emanate shackles of light, rooting all enemies for 6.0 seconds. Instant cast with a 1min cd

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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 6:26am

Shackles of Light: Knight Primary Skill

Holy Chains: Knight/Scout Level 25 Elite. Roots target for X seconds and can only be used on Demons and Undead. Level 60 Elite, Evil Shackles, modifies this skill to be usable on any type of target, but at half effect time for non-demon or non-undead targets.

Edit: Arcturian beat me to posted which skills.
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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 6:28am

My apologize about the 25 elite, been a long long time since I was lvl 25 knight lol. Thanks for the refresher zerienga.

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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 6:29am

Hehehe, np. Had looked up the elites to be accurate xD
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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 6:32am

Lol I just opened the skills. Just frustrated with these skills, don't know any other knight main that has these issues. That use them at least, all I know that do use them say they work fine for them...I've been on the receiving end of them in siege for both skills as well, work on me just fine lol

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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 6:46am

Any source of damage, bleed or otherwise, breaks the stun. Number one problem k/s have, is they use this skill then follow up with vamp arrow....which removes it. The point of the skill is simply "I'm going to ignore you for now, so stop hitting me". Get's hugely abused in siege, but again....breaks upon damage. I've seen k/w use it in bethomia on the undead mobs with success, so its not a class specific bug.

If you aren't inflicting damage, this would be the first time I've legit heard it doesn't work, and would need to see it for myself.

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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 7:06am

This is why some K/S's think their Holy Chains is not OP. They just don't know how it works.
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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 7:10am

Any source of damage, bleed or otherwise, breaks the stun. Number one problem k/s have, is they use this skill then follow up with vamp arrow....which removes it. The point of the skill is simply "I'm going to ignore you for now, so stop hitting me". Get's hugely abused in siege, but again....breaks upon damage. I've seen k/w use it in bethomia on the undead mobs with success, so its not a class specific bug.

If you aren't inflicting damage, this would be the first time I've legit heard it doesn't work, and would need to see it for myself.



I'm aware of the break for the stun for holy chains, shackles of light doesn't break. I have tried all scenrios with both skills I could think of, shackles doesn't even hit, period. Holy chains, still flashes on and off regardless of the player not taking dmg, considering it's a instant with no cd, I have literally stood there and spammed it, same result, it's on then off.



Also as I explained, I have had both skills used against me in siege by others, they have worked flawlessly.

Seeing for yourself tbh is immaterial to me blank. it doesn't work on my toon and I have mained knight for many years. Also I don't use vamp arrow when im trying to use a stun/rooting skill that can be broken by dmg lol.

They are as described, plain and simple.



And magio, im aware of how my k/s and k/w work just fine lol. Though I do appreciate the sentiment from you both....

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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 7:28am

I volunteer to test in 1v1 arena :) I'm queued lol
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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 7:30am

do the skills "miss" or "immune"? does combat log say anything?

also, if it matters, might there be a Macc/mresist application?
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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 7:52am

I volunteer to test in 1v1 arena :) I'm queued lol

This is why some K/S's think their Holy Chains is not OP. They just don't know how it works.

No need to test on you, I test dailiy for an hour on many ppl, plus I'd hate to have to kill you. Being from ppl and uber and all that... ;)



@CIke: Nothing show's up in the logs except that I "use" the skills, no targets, no miss or resist, just nothing after it says I use them.

It's not the first time I've had issues with my skills tbh, there were two other skills when I returned to the game (cant remember the names)

that didn't work right and they didn't get fixed until I did a tp reset and removed all skills on my action bars but for a long time after I returned to the game I never used them mainly cause I didn't have a need at the time gear toon being useless mostly till I regeared. Once I regeared, tried using them and no dice, it's only been the past while that they have become more and more useful because of low pop count for our sieges that I have to relie more on these skills that never work lol

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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 7:57am

Are you new to this bug report thing? I'm just trying to help.

1. It's better when you have someone to corroborate
2. I was going to record, upload, and post here

now, no need to epeen flex, but I'd just like to see you try >.>
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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 8:09am

Epeen? seriously magio.

as for corroboration, im not going to sit and fraps everything and I don't share my account.

this is turning into a off topic discussion with these. I'm not knew to reading these and I can read the posts and have from grim.

constructive help is useful, not debate or questioning the validity of this. If you don't have anything helpful to add in a constructive way, then don't post anything.



I really don't care if others don't have the issue and this isn't the first time I've had skills not work right on this toon as I explained in a previous thread. I have explained the situations and circumstances and any help that is useful without questioning my ability to play my own class or understanding the skills is helpful.

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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 8:33am

If it can't be repeated, replicated, or corroborated, and ONLY you, out of every knight in RoM, has the issue, then it's likely not a bug, but instead a form of user error.

People offering to try to help you back up your claim that it's bugged and you tell them they're being unhelpful and not to post anything. Smh.
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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 8:43am

Lol no offense but that's kind of silly for you to say.

No one has the same everything, add-ons, degradation of client. nothing is exactly the same.

Also your inference of user error? that's just insulting. you pick a target preferably that's alone, whether npc or player and click a skill. Seriously.

People helping for possible solutions or causes is what this thread is for, not for ppl to question and assume the validity of my claim. I have better things to do then to make things up and deal with silly comments like yours.

So yes, if it's not along the lines of constructive in terms of possible causes or solutions and questioning me? then yes it's not helpful. that's just common sense. No one toon is exactly the same, their are always many mitigating situations or circumstances that can effect anything to everything. Might want to remember that before you respond.

Also, I was directed here by gm's after running through everything with them so grim can see.

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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 9:48am

about holy chains:
If u "spam" the skill as u describe u r doing it wrong. U press once, u stun for 20secs. U press again, effect is set to 8secs. U press again, target is immune. U tried on a mob, pressing skill once and mob just runs to u after 1sec?

about shackles of light:
Skill has been changed long ago and now does not require target. It roots the targets "around u". So, no matter what mob u click, if its far from u, it wont get rooted.

Does any of these scenarios reflect the status of ur problem?

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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 10:02am

I wish, that would give me something to go on.

Holy Chains literally flashes on and off, I cast and watch and the icon goes on and aprrox .5secs later, it's gone(it's not just repeatedly mashing the button, I should have been more detailed about that). when I see the icon disappear I press again. Sometimes I just follow and try every few seconds, it's the same result. It's never gone on longer then that regardless of the situation and definitely hasn't gone for the allotted time based on skill lvl for mob or player, though I have had it used against me by another k/s and his worked the exact amount of time(+/- milliseconds)

Shackles of light just doesn't do anything. mobs or players, whether on top of me or anywhere between myself and 80-100 range. Also that's new to me for shackles of light, the skill remains unusable and red unless I have something targetable, targeted. Then when I do click the skill, there is no rooting and no icon, yet the cd'd still goes to 1min. Also the combat log only says I use those skills, nothing else.

I'm going to try a full removal of all rom based info and everything that goes with it shortly as well as all addons and clean what I can find. anything and everything is possible with rom.

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Wednesday, June 17th 2015, 2:40pm

Earagorn, when i play my K/S i have been experiencing the same issues as you. All the OP players wants it nerfed because it is so OP blabla. There are issues with those 2 skills especially in siege, i've seen rogue that i casted my chains on, they seem to jump up and not get caught at all, wardens and mages, same trick. I don't know what they are doing but it is why i had a thread and responses on other threads about this.

But of course all endgamers will say it's OP and needs nerfing, anything that annoys their OPness in siege needs nerfing. But when a skill of theirs is broke or they nerf it, OMG the end is here!!!! lmao

K/S skill has some issues but my bet is they found a way around it to counter it but they'll never tell.

Endgamers will troll you here, make fun of you, ridicule you and in the end get your thread closed and that will be that. Altough Magio seemed willing to help you on it :) record it and post it on youtube for Grimthar to be able to report it.

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